How is resignation an escape from prosecution for corruption ?

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  • gac
    Bronze Member

    • Dec 2011
    • 175

    #1

    [Question] How is resignation an escape from prosecution for corruption ?

    Can anybody in the legal know explain why it is that more often than not a government official/politician in the process of being "discovered" for impropriety / corruption simply resigns and escapes the net?

    Why is it that if Joe Public does something wrong he/she stands to be brought to book regardless of their whereabouts but a government official/politician can commit corruption and get off the hook by "resigning"?

    The Terence Nombembe matter is a case in point and if one were to search back I'm certain there are many others.
  • gac
    Bronze Member

    • Dec 2011
    • 175

    #2
    Apologies, not Terence Nombembe (Auditor General - he's a good guy ?) but rather Enoch Gongondwana.

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    • Blurock
      Diamond Member
      • May 2010
      • 4204

      #3
      Originally posted by gac
      Why is it that if Joe Public does something wrong he/she stands to be brought to book regardless of their whereabouts but a government official/politician can commit corruption and get off the hook by "resigning"?
      ...because fraud and corruption is a political passtime!
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      • gac
        Bronze Member

        • Dec 2011
        • 175

        #4
        JaJa but I'm wondering if there is a legal reason.

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        • Dave A
          Site Caretaker

          • May 2006
          • 22820

          #5
          Sometimes it's friends in the right places, I guess - but sometimes it's expediency.

          I recall one in the early days of the SETAs setup. The CEO was caught with finger in pie, and the Board resolved to "pursue the matter vigorously." The CEO concerned defended with equal vigour, and ultimately due to his position he was the only one who knew where the real skeletons were buried.

          The money was never recovered. Legal fees ran to 7 figures on the SETA's side alone. There was enough evidence at the "balance of probabilities" level, but not quite enough really damning evidence to satisfy "beyond reasonable doubt."

          In cold analysis after the fact, a wiser Board would have recognised from the outset that there was enough to dismiss, but not enough to sue - and wouldn't have thrown good money after bad. It would have been a galling call to make for sure, but...

          Sometimes you just have to settle for stopping the rot.
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          • Justloadit
            Diamond Member

            • Nov 2010
            • 3518

            #6
            Well if he resigns, there is no reason to investigate any further. Case Closed!
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            • gac
              Bronze Member

              • Dec 2011
              • 175

              #7
              Surely there are criminal and/or civil grounds on which to prosecute in many of the cases?

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              • Justloadit
                Diamond Member

                • Nov 2010
                • 3518

                #8
                Originally posted by gac
                Surely there are criminal and/or civil grounds on which to prosecute in many of the cases?
                There is criminal/civil grounds, the problem is proving that the action took place categorically. In many cases the paperwork is a shambles, that the amount of investigative requirements, is far beyond the capability of our local law enforcement, and will create more losses in trying to prove a circumstantial case.
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                • wynn
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                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3338

                  #9
                  Well 'Enoch' can obviously feel the fingers of the law around his collar because he is already crying sick/bad health/stress/diabetes as the reason he resigned, probably in anticipation of a sentance of jail time.
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                  • gac
                    Bronze Member

                    • Dec 2011
                    • 175

                    #10
                    Oh jeez not another "sick" corrupt official. I may have missed the reports but COSATU seems to be awfully quiet on this matter. Given the allegations involve substantial amounts of union Member funds I would have thought there would have been a riot.

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                    • Dave A
                      Site Caretaker

                      • May 2006
                      • 22820

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gac
                      I may have missed the reports but COSATU seems to be awfully quiet on this matter. Given the allegations involve substantial amounts of union Member funds I would have thought there would have been a riot.
                      The low profile is hardly surprising - There's sure to be union officials among the trustees that signed off on those fund movements.
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                      • gac
                        Bronze Member

                        • Dec 2011
                        • 175

                        #12
                        The case is hotting up by the looks of things and the net is closing in. According to Mail & Guardian pressure is mounting within Govt and from Trade Unions. M&G also reports that one of the Trade Union officials who signed off the loan is the brother of Mrs Gongodwana. Gobsmacked? no not at all.

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                        • wynn
                          Diamond Member

                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3338

                          #13
                          further to the mix now how is Patel involved???

                          The DA has accused Sactwu of shielding Economic Development Minister Ebrahim Patel from the fallout of R100-million worth of workers' pension funds.


                          The probe into how R100m of union pension money went missing will move to prison -- to hear testimony from Sam Buthelezi, a key player in the scandal.
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                          • Dave A
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                            • May 2006
                            • 22820

                            #14
                            He was secretary general of SACTWU at the time the "investments" were made from the pension funds.
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                            • wynn
                              Diamond Member

                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3338

                              #15
                              Oh $#!t another sick one, what is it? when you get caught you get sick?

                              Fraud-accused Richard Kawie has failed to appear before the Canyon Springs liquidition probe, claiming he is too depressed and too ill to attend.
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