IQ Test

[tec0]

No problem tec.

tec if people are interested in either coming to us for a job or contacting us to look for people to work for them, they do contact me via PM. A lot of people have also uploaded their CV on our website. And for those that may be "confused" they can also PM me.
We supply a service and have helped out thousands of people over the years. We are extremely proud of this and are also opening our Cape Town doors shortly.

Thank you but sadly you didn't answer anything...

[CLIVE-TRIANGLE]

On an issue that came up a few times in this thread, namely dyslexia. A good friend who is also a good client, being the sole shareholder and director of a major manufacturer, is dyslexic.

He happens to be the smartest man I know. Not most intelligent or even knowledgeable, but by very far the smartest.

Not only that, his impairment, if that is what it is, scores him points with EE because it is classed as a disability.

Despite his disability, he has no problem releasing payments on Best for more money in a month than I will see in my lifetime. I forget to mention that he is also somewhat well off, perhaps even rich. Imagine what he could achieve if it were not for this disability.

[HR Solutions]

Thank you but sadly you didn't answer anything...

You are right tec, not to you.

@ Clive yes I totally agree with you about being dyslexic. And if tec had read correctly at the beginning of this thread he would have seen who and why I wanted this test done for. There is a place for all in todays society, but not for all in certain positions. Its as if we place an engineer into a lawyers position. They are just not going to crack it. !

[adrianh]

tec0 - you don't seem to understand what HR Solutions does - He searches for candidates to be employed by HIS CLIENTS based on their criteria. HR Solutions DOES NOT set the criteria, the CLIENT DOES.

No matter how much you talk about discrimination etc... the final decision to employ somebody still rests with the CLIENT who is looking for the employee.

There are many jobs where dyslexia is a serious problem, just as being colour blindness could be a serious problem. It seems to be very difficult for you to grasp that some people are simply not suited to a particular job or task. I have ADD and I will never be a medical doctor, why, because I will forget half the tools in the patients stomach, I will never be a pilot because my health and eyesight are not up to scratch, I will never be a parabat because I am not fit enough and will never be fit enough.

So, no matter how much you bitch and moan, a blind man simply ain't going to be a bus driver and a deaf mute is not going to be a talkshow host...

LIFE IS NOT FAIR - DEAL WITH IT!

[pmbguy]

Hi there tec0
I am not shouting or anything, but it seems to me that you a bit confrontational. Are you not tired of fighting your shadow? You staring to sound a bit like Mariana..lol…just kidding I don’t think anybody could be that bad again, but I hope to see somebody challenge her position of diatribe king one day. Anyway, It sounds like you taking HR’s question as a personal insult and attack. I can assure you that he means no harm by his question it is a natural question given his industry.

@HR – Trust me on the University. Their stuff is certified and you will get great advice to build efficient and effective tests.

I know many successful self made businessmen who would fail miserably at proficiency tests if they ever had to apply for a position. In the same breath that same businessmen would excel in an interview with a clued-up interviewer or prospective employer. You can tell by meeting somebody whether they have what it takes.
Testing acts as a filter (with some wholes) to get a list going, you can’t interview the whole SA. Its too impractical.

[Dave A]

There is no greater disservice you can do to a person than put them in a job that they will never be capable of doing no matter how hard they try.
And as government is learning at our cost, being too soft in your hiring practices is harmful to both the enterprise and the competent staff within it.

I actually wonder if there are elements within the ruling party that regret having rushed into promulgating such progressive labour regulation in SA in one big leap. They certainly managed to create a rod for their own back, and my goodness are they ever getting whipped with it.

I'm not arguing with the ideals behind all this. It's just with the benefit of hindsight, it's pretty clear it would have been wiser to rather head in that direction in gentle steps.

[HR Solutions]

Thanks Adrian, pmb and Dave for understanding the concept and having another bash at trying to further explain it again.

[tec0]

simple question do qualified people get interviews if they are found to have dyslexia?

I am not saying make them a doctor when they are qualified in something else. Those where your words not mine so if you want scream at someone adrian then first read.

Lets be clear I am only asking questions now. Why because I want clarity. I want to know the answer to the above question. Why is HR avoiding this question?

Right now you are making an argument so that you can make your point. Your argument is based on what you think I said not what I actually said so take it for what it is.

Yes they do Ian, and yes some do get past the starting blocks. But a lot of our work is done on a computer and an online package whereby you enter and work on candidates cv's on line, enter clients details etc, so they may have filled in a two page form correctly because they perhaps spent a few more minutes working on it, but then find out that she cannot spell correctly etc etc, either because she is rushed or they may be dyslexic etc etc. So I am trying to find an online test whereby we can try to pick theses things up earlier. have found some very basic ones which are not suitable because if you have half a brain cell for eg you can figure out the correct answers, so preferably need a test that can test Apptitude, dyslexia and IQ as well where we can test them at an interview stage.

where was this question answered as suggested? nope...

You are right tec, not to you.

@ Clive yes I totally agree with you about being dyslexic. And if tec had read correctly at the beginning of this thread he would have seen who and why I wanted this test done for. There is a place for all in todays society, but not for all in certain positions. Its as if we place an engineer into a lawyers position. They are just not going to crack it. !

So where did you make your intentions clear?

[tec0]

tec0 - you don't seem to understand what HR Solutions does - He searches for candidates to be employed by HIS CLIENTS based on their criteria. HR Solutions DOES NOT set the criteria, the CLIENT DOES.

No matter how much you talk about discrimination etc... the final decision to employ somebody still rests with the CLIENT who is looking for the employee.

There are many jobs where dyslexia is a serious problem, just as being colour blindness could be a serious problem. It seems to be very difficult for you to grasp that some people are simply not suited to a particular job or task. I have ADD and I will never be a medical doctor, why, because I will forget half the tools in the patients stomach, I will never be a pilot because my health and eyesight are not up to scratch, I will never be a parabat because I am not fit enough and will never be fit enough.

So, no matter how much you bitch and moan, a blind man simply ain't going to be a bus driver and a deaf mute is not going to be a talkshow host...

LIFE IS NOT FAIR - DEAL WITH IT!

all the big letters in the world will not change the fact that you took my question out of context so try again... Like you said it is not fair so deal with it...

[tec0]

In the end it doesn't help to get angry. I know for a fact that goes round comes around. It may take years or perhaps a few generations but in the end it will.

Like I said before I do not have any delusion or misunderstanding. Truth is your misdirection failed. The truth is what it is and all the screaming and arrogance and snide remarks will not change it.

And you are right the world doesn't owe me anything. That doesn't mean I have to keep my mouth shut.

[adrianh]

Arguing with you is like arguing with the wife,, there is only one way to conclude the argument;

Yes dear, whatever you say dear....

[pmbguy]

@Adrian -4:42AM, were you about to go to bed or was this after you got up?

[HR Solutions]

Like I said before I do not have any delusion or misunderstanding

SERIOUS !!! ?

As Adrian says. Yes Dear.

[adrianh]

@pmbguy - suffice to say that the DM makes so much noise in her sleep that there are no wild Buffalo left in our neighbourhood. I give her a swift kick, fiddle a bit with the tablet and then try to get back to sleep.

[HR Solutions]

@pmbguy - suffice to say that the DM makes so much noise in her sleep that there are no wild Buffalo left in our neighbourhood. I give her a swift kick, fiddle a bit with the tablet and then try to get back to sleep.

You had wild buffalo in your street !!!!!