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As the new chairman of my local CPF the committee has been motivating the local Municipality to install CCTV in the business districts and crime hotspots in our sector.
I have heard the figure of R30,000.oo per camera (4directions, remote view, long recording period etc.) being bandied about, is this in line with what is out there?
We have said in our motivating letter to the local authority that besides the crime prevention angle they should not look at this as an expense but as a revenue stream as well.
Consider all the traffic violations that will be picked up that usually go unpunished, (70 X R500.oo fines in the first month will pay for the system and anything above the outlay is all cherry on top) obviously this will create a huge revenue stream for the first few months, as the public become aware and behave themselves the revenue will taper off.
Fines for violations such as illegal U-Turns, stopping in no stopping areas, exceeding parking period, speeding, failing to stop at red lights or stop signs, crossing the median etc. they only have to issue 3 fines a day for a month to break even and that is over a 24 hour day (they can even take Saturdays and Sundays off because they can view the recording on Monday if they want) it is a no brainer.
The comment by one of the detectives on the committee was that when a shop with cctv prosecuted anyone for shoplifting or other crime on their premises, the cctv recording is the clincher in getting a conviction, because no matter how much the perpertrator tries to deny the crime, it is there in full colour and motion for everybody to see, lets see a bag snatcher or someone breaking into a car try wiggle out of that and that is what makes it a necessity not a luxury in fighting crime.
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The problem with these kinds of systems that are controlled by the municipality is that government workers get lazy and they also get weekends and holidays off. They might have to review 48 hours of footage on a Monday but I can almost guarantee that they won't review the full 48 hours worth of footage. This leaves gaps in your security.
Another problem is what about crime on the weekends?
Not sure how you can say this !! Most companies want cctv to record goings on all hours of the day - there are many applications for cctv that IS the answer !
Electric fencing is also the answer. CCTV is a secondary, with a large enough hardrive to record movements. Videofied only gives you a 10 sec recording ............ If an alarm goes off and alerts a reaction company - they have to react !
Not sure how you can say this !! Most companies want cctv to record goings on all hours of the day - there are many applications for cctv that IS the answer !
Electric fencing is also the answer. CCTV is a secondary, with a large enough hardrive to record movements. Videofied only gives you a 10 sec recording ............ If an alarm goes off and alerts a reaction company - they have to react !
I'm not the expert on this but from stats I found that Videofied made more arrests this month than what ADT made in the past 10 years. All because of the 10 seconds verification. All alarm companies sits with the same problem. False alarms, in fact a study was done and 99.9% of all alarm signals in are false. To take that into perspective, let's say a larger company gets 5000 signals a day, they only have to respond to 1. The rest is money down the drain and taking priority response away from the people who needs it.
Electric fence, come on, what a joke. In fact CCTV is a bigger joke. I agree CCTV has its place. If you want to investigate an incidents after it happened you can use it. But what if they stole your DVR or they wear masks. Then CCTV means nothing. It is more important to have a response company get notified with video verification immediately as the crime is happening. Off site CCTV monitoring is not cheap. Video is as effective if not better at a fraction of the costs.
Let me ask this. If CCTV and electric fence worked in this country, don't you think this would have been the safest country in the world. I gave Videofied a go and you know what it actually works.
You work fo videofied poetang? Because You slate electric fencing and cctv as if you have more experience than just a customer that has installed videofed. I have been installing electruc fencing for over 14 years and have positive proof that it works if installed correctly.
You work fo videofied poetang? Because You slate electric fencing and cctv as if you have more experience than just a customer that has installed videofed. I have been installing electruc fencing for over 14 years and have positive proof that it works if installed correctly.
Like I said CCTV has its place. Especially for people who wants to do surveillance. And then the system is only as good as the R2500 p/m guard you employ to monitor it. But people selling CCTV just to make a quick buck is a disgrace to the industry. 90% of the time it is not the solution someone needs.
I will not comment on electric fence but I wish you all the best in your business and hope you make a difference with your security solutions. At the end of the day that is what is needed in this country and not security people trying to make money without thinking of the people's life's that are at stake.
Don't work for Videofied but have a close friend that does. You should really relook at making this part of your solution to your customers.
Wow Poentang - you come onto this forum insulting people. ................. now people are a"disgrace" ................. !!!!!!! just because they install cctv for a "quick buck " ................ and need a security guard. ........... clearly you dont know too much about it and have been brainwashed by your " friend"!!
Wow Poentang - you come onto this forum insulting people. ................. now people are a"disgrace" ................. !!!!!!! just because they install cctv for a "quick buck " ................ and need a security guard. ........... clearly you dont know too much about it and have been brainwashed by your " friend"!!
You are right. I know nothing as i am in the IT business. I will leave security to you guys.
HAS to be an inside job. Just too many things were by-passed; on site security guard, armed response, electric fencing, alarm not going off, on-site sec guard with a route tag knew nothing about it, footage from hard drives deleted. Shouldn't be too difficult to nail the buggers with all those clues....
Kev, I have CCTV, electric fencing, real time monitoring, 2 large dogs, IR beams, 6 X 500W halogen lights which are switched on when I need them, razor spikes, razor fencing, motorised gate, intercom, besides a 9MM Parabellum, insurance and armed response. Others have had break-ins, and various incidents. In the 23 years I have been living in my house, only once some clot tried to get me to open my gate (3 weeks ago he came at 11:45PM frantically saying his wife was in labour and he's from 'across the road' and I must urgently help him) I saw from the camera what he looked like and politely said that I can't help him. Later found out he'd tried 2 other neighbours the next evening. So yes, I totally agree with you, CCTV and electric fencing are the way to go. Poentang, your'e a new member. Welcome buddy. So am I. But if you want to make (and keep) friends on this forum, choose your words carefully in future.
I think the offsite CCTV Monitoring is cost effective when you compare it with the benefits.And you don't to hire more security staff to control the security devices.But its best for the organization that don't have more budget to spend on their security system.
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