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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #1

    SA to get new electrical sockets, plugs

    What are your thoughts on this

    South Africans could soon find themselves having to wrestle with a new type of electrical plug following the adoption of an apparently much safer standard for plugs and sockets. SANS 164-2 was introduced as the “preferred standard” for electrical plugs and sockets by the South
  • tec0
    Diamond Member

    • Jun 2009
    • 4624

    #2
    Originally posted by adrianh
    I would welcome it... no more R10 adapters for me! From the look of things it "may" actually accept your standard two point plug common with mobile phones. Finally I don't have to worry about someone nicking my adapters...
    peace is a state of mind
    Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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    • irneb
      Gold Member

      • Apr 2007
      • 625

      #3
      Oh wow! So they're adding an Earth to the useless 2-point we're using in SA? I'd rather they simply get rid of them, they never work properly and tend to make poor connection (especially with a one-unit transformer). The round pins were always an issue, the contact points around them are inefficient (as it usually only touches a small fraction of the surface area) and the 2 pins have smaller radius which makes them even more inefficient. I'd say they actually need to get away from these and opt for the square or flat pin designs used overseas - much better contact, much more secure (no wobbling and disconnecting, and (more importantly) less chance of a child sticking their fingers in there!

      Obviously that is not practicable as old appliances would need adaptors to work on the new sockets. But this is rather strange, very seldom do you see sockets with the 2 prong plugs - usually you need an adaptor to fit onto a 3 prong socket anyway. Now you'll need an adaptor in reverse for your 3 prong plugs (if you don't have enough sockets for them). I want to see just how many muisneste people are going to construct in their kitchens to get the micro, the kettle, the fridge, the food processor, etc. plugged into those 2 prongs with added earth!
      Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves. - Norm Franz
      And central banks are the slave clearing houses

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      • tec0
        Diamond Member

        • Jun 2009
        • 4624

        #4
        If anything I would go for these... But with an on/off switch.

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        peace is a state of mind
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        • adrianh
          Diamond Member

          • Mar 2010
          • 6328

          #5
          \I fully agree with irneb. The person who invented the two pin plug should be hung.

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          • irneb
            Gold Member

            • Apr 2007
            • 625

            #6
            Originally posted by tec0
            If anything I would go for these... But with an on/off switch.
            You mean like these used in Australia.

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            Originally posted by adrianh
            \I fully agree with irneb. The person who invented the two pin plug should be hung.
            Too true ... we're actually using the old British standard, the 2 pin is actually their shaver socket FFS! Even they've opted for the square shape (even on the 3 pin sockets): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_powe..._related_types
            Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves. - Norm Franz
            And central banks are the slave clearing houses

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            • Slow Blow
              Full Member

              • Feb 2014
              • 55

              #7
              I just want to know which politicians son, uncle, niece has got the contract to import and distribute the first ship load of these plugs
              Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today.

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              • pedruid
                Full Member

                • Aug 2013
                • 65

                #8
                I have to renew quite a few "old" 3 pin 16 A sockets in a retirement cottage I'll be moving to and would like to fund the most reliable brand. I.e. Crabtree, CBI, LeGrand or Veti. I'm gioing to be shelling out for about eight and would appreciate advise so that I get the best bang for my buck.

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                • irneb
                  Gold Member

                  • Apr 2007
                  • 625

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pedruid
                  I have to renew quite a few "old" 3 pin 16 A sockets in a retirement cottage I'll be moving to and would like to fund the most reliable brand. I.e. Crabtree, CBI, LeGrand or Veti. I'm gioing to be shelling out for about eight and would appreciate advise so that I get the best bang for my buck.
                  I only know Crabtree and LeGrand well, from projects I've been involved in over the last 20+ years.

                  Personally I've found LeGrand more durable. Not to mention, they have a much wider range of appearance. Though I've tended to use these in hotels instead of residential - usually around 5 star hotels or boutique lodges.

                  However their cheap default switch is the little round one. Might not be ideal for a retirement village. I've found they're irritating as my finger sometimes has difficulty turning it off before unplugging, I can imagine someone with ailments like Parkinsons (like my grand mother had) finding them impossible to use. In which case the Crabtree default large rectangular switch may be more usable.

                  Of course if you're going for the more high-end designs then LeGrand is definitely the better brand. But they're going to be more expensive.
                  Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves. - Norm Franz
                  And central banks are the slave clearing houses

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                  • AndyD
                    Diamond Member

                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4946

                    #10
                    Gewiss is also an option. What size are the back boxes?
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                    • pedruid
                      Full Member

                      • Aug 2013
                      • 65

                      #11
                      Thanks irneb. Crabtree Topaz offer 2 sets that I'm interested in. One is old 3 pin + 2 Slimline with 2 switches. Two is a bank 4 Slimline witched in 2's. Is it permissible to put these two side by side in a wall but from the same cable feed OR must they b supplied individually. I'll get an electrician to carry out the work.

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                      • pedruid
                        Full Member

                        • Aug 2013
                        • 65

                        #12
                        What about the Veti Omni Cluster https://www.vetionline.co.za/collect...-fixing-frames. the ability to mix and match sockets would be ideal for my Home Office and my Tv area.

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                        • AndyD
                          Diamond Member

                          • Jan 2010
                          • 4946

                          #13
                          All the manufacturers have ranges that use a grid system whereby you can assemble your own combination of sockets and switches etc.
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                          • pedruid
                            Full Member

                            • Aug 2013
                            • 65

                            #14
                            Hi AndyD, can you provide me with a link or links to these manufacturers? I've bought Vati but would like to see what others have to offer.

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                            • AndyD
                              Diamond Member

                              • Jan 2010
                              • 4946

                              #15
                              Some of these are largish downloads, please be warned if you're on dial-up or limited bandwidth.

                              Clipsal S3000 range

                              Crabtree Diamond range

                              Gewiss Chorus range

                              LeGrand Arteor range

                              Schneider Zencelo range

                              Gira system55 range
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