new computers

[bones]

year started slow but my business is pushing forward
Time to upgrade the office computers.

need something that is cheap yet powerful
with very little power consumption to help
my generator

i like this

GB-BXi3H-4010 GIGABYTE Brix 4th Gen Intel i3-4010U 1.7GHz Compact PC





nice low cost solution i think

[Pap_sak]

Nice - but looks like you still need memory and a hard drive and an OS - that adds quite a bit to the price.

What about just buying laptops? Least you get a couple of hours battery life...

[bones]

Nice - but looks like you still need memory and a hard drive and an OS - that adds quite a bit to the price.

What about just buying laptops? Least you get a couple of hours battery life...

true to get the thing to work will cost me R7500 but so will a normal desktop pc

yes a desktop pc can do more but it is also big and power hungry i got a quote from
pc store and it is going for R2800 for CPU and board excluding all the goodies with
all the goodies like os ram and hdd psu and box it hits the R6500 mark and it eats
more power

sh_t if i know if it is a better pc or not but for R1000 more you get a small pc
that can fit in a safe. laptops cook the batteries eventually i had that before
replacing a single battery can cost R1800 and if something goes wrong no
replacement parts. same sh_ty deal if you ask me but i need it to fit in a safe

[julies]

What was the specs on the Desktops, was it I3, I5 or I7, does it have a graphics card. Are you comparing the same amount of ram and hard drive sizes. I cant see how it could be R6500 for the desktops you mentioned. Whats the size of the ram and hard drive you adding to the Compact PC and which operating system are you using.

[bones]

What was the specs on the Desktops, was it I3, I5 or I7, does it have a graphics card. Are you comparing the same amount of ram and hard drive sizes. I cant see how it could be R6500 for the desktops you mentioned. Whats the size of the ram and hard drive you adding to the Compact PC and which operating system are you using.

yea made a tiny mistake actually here is the prices from the horses mouth
piss poor power hungry system nothing really special gpu is onboard

intel Core i3 4150 3.5 ghz 4th gen R1700.00
120 Gig ssd hard drive R1400.00
8 gb ddr3 1600 mhz ram R1200.00
msi M board R800.00
thermaltake 550W psu R700.00
pc case R700.00
lg dvd/rw R250.00
win 7 home basic 32/64 Bit R1300.00

Total = R8050.00 inc os
Total = R6750.00 exc os

[julies]

Is there a particular reason why you need 8gig Ram and SSD harddrive as well as such an expensive PC case ?

Can you not reuse the Licence of your old computers.

For something similar to your specs except with a 500gig Hybrid Harddrive, I get about R7000 each including the OS.

[bones]

Is there a particular reason why you need 8gig Ram and SSD harddrive as well as such an expensive PC case ?

Can you not reuse the Licence of your old computers.

For something similar to your specs except with a 500gig Hybrid Harddrive, I get about R7000 each including the OS.

ram is a must os is a must the case was not my idea
at all but the apparently it is for better cooling i would
mount it on a block-o-wood i seriously dont care it
just needs to work as i understand it the ram is
shared between os and onboard gpu so it needs to be
a lot as a gpu pci-e thing cost a sh_t load more

also again not my idea but ssd is apparently a lot more
reliable and faster then the old hard drives especially
because i plan to move it from safe to office and back
to safe again. my license is xp home and new software
like coral draw is not willing or able to work with it and is
partly why i need the f_cking upgrade to begin with

but i am told any i3 4th gen with onboard gpu and
8gb or ram can handle coral draw so that small pc
looks just as good as the big one

[Chrisjan B]

I won't take an SSD when still running XP as the OS does not support the TRIM feature SSD use. It will shorten the lifespan of the SSD.
That said it is money well spent IMHO - especially when you run the SSD as boot drive with Windows and programs on it and your data on a normal hard drive. You need only a 120GB SSD for this and it gives sapce for expansion.

[bones]

I won't take an SSD when still running XP as the OS does not support the TRIM feature SSD use. It will shorten the lifespan of the SSD.
That said it is money well spent IMHO - especially when you run the SSD as boot drive with Windows and programs on it and your data on a normal hard drive. You need only a 120GB SSD for this and it gives sapce for expansion.

windows 8.1 is not optional right now i need it because
the programs i use dont support xp anymore... but what
do you think would you go for the brix? "i3" one?

[IanF]

Hi Bones
We use coreldraw as our main design programme and acrobat professional as our customer support programme. We have quad core i5 processors 3.1 GHZ and 8GB of RAM.
I was also looking at replacing our desktop with the Intel Nuc because of power. I then did a meter reading and instead of 400 watts (the PSU size) the computer the draw was 220w with 2 screens a router and adsl modem. So check your actual power usage before buying a new computer. I bought this monitor.
For speed I bought hybrid drives and they did not make a difference, so the next step is SSD drives and more RAM.

[Chrisjan B]

IanF - did you measure the power usage with PC under load? Will be interesting to see the difference between idle and load....

[IanF]

Yup was under load opening big files over the network and send them for printing.

[bones]

Hi Bones
We use coreldraw as our main design programme and acrobat professional as our customer support programme. We have quad core i5 processors 3.1 GHZ and 8GB of RAM.
I was also looking at replacing our desktop with the Intel Nuc because of power. I then did a meter reading and instead of 400 watts (the PSU size) the computer the draw was 220w with 2 screens a router and adsl modem. So check your actual power usage before buying a new computer. I bought this monitor.
For speed I bought hybrid drives and they did not make a difference, so the next step is SSD drives and more RAM.

i like that "Efergy monitoring socket" i think i saw something
like that at our local builders

waiting for a quote on a amd system with water cooling
also 8gb of ram and all the rest it is a apu system they
are really inexpensive and house a hell of a lot of
processing power i was told it will work with a 350watt
psu and i use samsung monitors with the power brick

but i do need a single intel system for special software
that has no amd driver support for some stupid reason
it is the only reason why i need intel and because it
will only do the 1 process it doesnt need to be big
i3 will work but 8gb ram is a must i have written to
the software suppler about amd support or any other
alternative all i got was thank you for your e-mail bs

thanks for the tip will get myself this monitor device
knowing true power use for us is a must

[bones]

ok more on the intel driver this software actually use the
cpu directly so it needs a driver downloadable from intel
that will allow almost direct access to the cpu dont ask
me why i cannot tell you but that is what the software
wants that is what i need and no there is no alternative
software available and the older version is no longer
supported so i am forced to look at a i3 system and it
sucks also there is no amd alternative why i dont know
but i need what i need or my ship sinks

[IanF]

Bones
If you want top of the range computers look at the supernova If you have to ask the price you can't afford it. The guys who do the truck wraps use these.
If the software works and needs Intel then you have your answer.