AVG no longer our friend?

[AndyD]

You should see our major programs from AutoDesk. They now stopped posting DVDs - you have to download the upgrades / updates ... all 2 to 8 GB worth.

Autodesk don't make life easy but if you contact them direct they will still mail a disk with updates packaged as a standalone installer. They just did it for our AutoCAD MDT, mechanical and Inventor as well. Same for Catia but they don't advertise the fact.

[popayetwo]

Autodesk don't make life easy but if you contact them direct they will still mail a disk with updates packaged as a standalone installer.

But by the time the disk arrives in the snail mail its WAAAY out of date and hundreds of other viruses have infested the web. That's why Avast with its twice daily updates is so much better. And the updates are a few kilobytes in size. And free.

[AndyD]

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Originally Posted by AndyD View Post
Autodesk don't make life easy but if you contact them direct they will still mail a disk with updates packaged as a standalone installer.

But by the time the disk arrives in the snail mail its WAAAY out of date and hundreds of other viruses have infested the web. That's why Avast with its twice daily updates is so much better. And the updates are a few kilobytes in size. And free.

Autodesk isn't an antivirus, it's a company who distribute CAD drawing packages. Their updates come out only a couple or so times a year.

[irneb]

Autodesk don't make life easy but if you contact them direct they will still mail a disk with updates packaged as a standalone installer. They just did it for our AutoCAD MDT, mechanical and Inventor as well. Same for Catia but they don't advertise the fact.

Only halfway. You wait for 2 months for the DVD to arrive, then when you install it - let's say Revit Arch 2011, it asks you what content you want to install with it: After you've made your selection ... WTF? That's not on the DVD, download another 2GB of families ... which fails half-way through (due to our """impressive""" SA-ISPs). Which means we've wasted yet another 500MB - 1.5GB of our capping. Fortunately most of the "content" can be copied to other PC's once it's downloaded, so we don't have to download for all 60 copies , but there are stuff which simply does not work this way

And yes, it's not anything to do with AV's - so the snail-mail option should be sufficient here (it's not as if a 6 month old update is not of value). I had just included this reference to show how other programs are tending to the same method of updates / upgrades ... making for the same problems (if not worse due to size).

[AndyD]

This is the way it's going. I doubt you'll be able to get updates on a disk for much longer, I also doubt you'll be able to get updates as a self installing application, pretty shortly it will be web based updates only. If you're running 10 pc's you'll need to go through the online update process 10 times.
I can't help thinking were complaining about progress on behalf of the software manufacturers when the issue is actually lack of local progress with internet infrastructure and high internet bandwidth prices.

[irneb]

If it was only web updates, you could have used a download manager to resume the download instead of restarting it. The big problem comes when it's a built-in update downloader (i.e. part of the program itself - like with AVG / Avast!). Then it starts downloading, finds the connection timing out, restart download from scratch, rinse-n-repeat.

If the programmer wants to include their updating thingy inside the program, they HAVE TO add the resume capability. Otherwise they should just take this out of their program and let other stuff handle the job much more efficiently - which is probably not an option for AVs.

If AVG's only problem was the downloads, then adding a resume to its download manager would solve this problem by 90%. Avast! doesn't show this issue (yet) since its updates are so small the SA-ISP's built-in-timeout-on-purpose-whenever-you-least-expect-it-feature can't catch it

[Dazfuzz]

Ahhh... a point for Avast!

Seeing what some people were saying about Avast! I had some of the Office workstations install Avast while retaining AVG for the short term. We had a incident today where an email from "Fedex" was received by a colleague stating the need to print out a receipt and bring into the offices to collect a parcel... "coincidentally" the same person had actually received a package today making it all seem legit. Upon opening the zip file he was presented with an "exe" file.

Luckily Avast prevented the file from opening (screaming "Trojan"!) and he called me to have a look. AVG did zip...zero...nada! I suspected its a virus and got rid of it. "Coming to think of it were gonna have to run some full scans to make sure it didn't get onto the pc or the network."

So be careful, if you get something from fedex; even if you are expecting a parcel.