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  • AndyD
    Diamond Member

    • Jan 2010
    • 4946

    #46
    The lamp fittings with relation to the voltages has always been confusing and in some cases ass-backward. If you have a 12v lamp and a 240v lamp of the same wattage then the 12v version will draw 20 times the current that the 240v version does. So why on earth with halogen downlights would the far larger bayonett fitting (GU10) be the norm for the lower current model and the far less substantial bi-pin (GU5.3) with only 1.5mm pins be used for the higher current?
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    • Justloadit
      Diamond Member

      • Nov 2010
      • 3518

      #47
      Probably came from an evolutionary process, where a specific lamp connection was used by a particular manufacturer years ago, and simply became the benchmark for the competition.
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      • KristiKat
        Bronze Member

        • Feb 2014
        • 178

        #48
        Originally posted by Justloadit
        Probably came from an evolutionary process, where a specific lamp connection was used by a particular manufacturer years ago, and simply became the benchmark for the competition.
        i don't think they are concerned with competition,

        they take the technology that is the baddest,

        to make the best money.
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        • Justloadit
          Diamond Member

          • Nov 2010
          • 3518

          #49
          Originally posted by KristiKat
          i don't think they are concerned with competition,

          they take the technology that is the baddest,

          to make the best money.
          Not quite like that.
          If I wish to become a globe manufacturer, and get presence in the market place, I have to compete with the existing manufacturers, and the only way would be price. It would mean that I would investigate to see what is the most popular fitting, and manufacture the globe to fit this fitting, making my item as cheap as possible for the user to purchase, without having to spend any money in replacing his existing fitting.This now creates a norm in the market, as more and more manufacturers enter the market.
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          • gombault
            Full Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 32

            #50
            I cannot see how my lighting system can confuse people. People will know that they have a solar battery 24CV led light system. If it’s a new house they will be told so by the seller, if it’s an old house conversion they will know because they paid for the conversion. They will know when they had rain for a week the lights will not be that bright, they will know they can switch on the power supply for full brightness lights. The globes also have a life expectancy of 50000 hours so people will know within that time they have a different light system because during the next power cut they can see they still have lights. The reason for using the standard light fitting is cost and if someone mistakenly fit a 220v globe in my system it will not damage anything. A warning can also be placed on the globe box that this globe is only to be used for the Celgo 24V lighting system. The problem with 12V led down lighters is voltage drop as you mentioned. I make a 24V 10W 140deg LED down lighter that’s far better than a 12V down lighter.

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            • irneb
              Gold Member

              • Apr 2007
              • 625

              #51
              Originally posted by gombault
              I cannot see how my lighting system can confuse people. People will know that they have a solar battery 24CV led light system.
              It's the other way round. People with the 24v conversion won't have any problems (at least not serious ones). But someone with the normal 220v in their house without your conversion, might pick up one of your bulbs and stick it into their sockets. Or are you going to vet everyone every buying your bulbs?
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              • Butch Hannan
                Bronze Member

                • Dec 2009
                • 184

                #52
                What would the cost be for a four bedroom house. I assume this only goes for the lights and not the stoves and geysers etc.
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                • gombault
                  Full Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 32

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Butch Hannan
                  What would the cost be for a four bedroom house. I assume this only goes for the lights and not the stoves and geysers etc.
                  Hi Butch
                  Yes this is for lights only. The cost of a 15 globes house kit is around R15000.00Ex. This kit consists of the solar panels, batteries, and control unit with power supply, 15 globes and 6 x lamps on day night switch. We can also arrange finance for this conversion that will cost you around R700.00 per month. You can send me a mail to celgo@eject.co.za and I will send you all the details.

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                  • Slow Blow
                    Full Member

                    • Feb 2014
                    • 55

                    #54
                    Eish, I remember when we had gas lights
                    Apparently there is nothing that cannot happen today.

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                    • Sparks
                      Gold Member

                      • Dec 2009
                      • 909

                      #55
                      I will rather keep mum about what I remember

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                      • Houses4Rent
                        Gold Member

                        • Mar 2014
                        • 803

                        #56
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