Electric fence certificates - who is responsible to get one?

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  • Sparks
    Gold Member

    • Dec 2009
    • 909

    #1

    Electric fence certificates - who is responsible to get one?

    As most sale agreements still omit the requirement of an electric fence certificate, property buyers could find themselves in for a rude shock.
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  • AndyD
    Diamond Member

    • Jan 2010
    • 4946

    #2
    I won't touch electric fences
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    • Sparks
      Gold Member

      • Dec 2009
      • 909

      #3
      it can be a hair-raising experience

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      • hartdev@hotmail.com
        Full Member
        • Jul 2015
        • 46

        #4
        I don't know much about electrical fences, and have never Installed one.
        Who can provide a certificate for this? Or are guys with wiremans licenses such as myself able to sign these off?
        Or.... am I asking you the question that you asked? Lol

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        • Sparks
          Gold Member

          • Dec 2009
          • 909

          #5
          Installers with 2years experience have been allowed to apply for accreditation to certify them. Before certifying the premises where one has already been installed I always check it myself because they are not up to speed with all the regs. I have come across some scary certified fences and by refusing to certify the house I have put pressure on the seller to get the fence installer to make sure that the fence actually does comply.

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          • ians
            Diamond Member

            • Apr 2010
            • 3943

            #6
            A customer asks you to install a single socket outlet.

            If a fence company installs an electric fence and you are requested to install a single socket outlet, do you become responsible for the entire electric fence installation?
            Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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            • sterne.law@gmail.com
              Platinum Member

              • Oct 2009
              • 1332

              #7
              How ironic, this post is up.
              I noticed an electric fence installed in my complex by a resident.
              Small (1/2 m). It is on Ground level.
              It has a sign to ,however, small children cannot read.
              Without derogating form the fact that adults must keep an eye etc, it still poses a risk.
              Are there specific rules about this?

              As an example, a fence on the outside of a property is understandable. The owner of the fence must look after their child.
              It is not unreasonable to think that nay child on teh road is old enough to read and understand or smaller are accompanied by adults.
              Anthony Sterne

              www.acumenholdings.co.za
              DISCLAIMER The above is merely a comment in discussion form and an open public arena. It does not constitute a legal opinion or professional advice in any manner or form.

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              • AndyD
                Diamond Member

                • Jan 2010
                • 4946

                #8
                I can't answer any of the questions above with any certainty but a lot of the confusion around electric fences seems to be because some of their regulations are wrapped up in the electrical regs and some of their regulations are separate fence installation regs. Obviously they would also fall under general health and safety regs as well same way a step might do. I don't know of any laws or regulations that state all steps must be lit but if someone leaves your house and falls down an unlit step they'd certainly have a legal claim against the house owner even though no specific regs have been breached.
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                • sterne.law@gmail.com
                  Platinum Member

                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1332

                  #9
                  Falling down the steps would open you up for a damages claim.
                  You could reasonably foresee that someone could fall and providing lights is not an unreasonable step to mitigate that.
                  Anthony Sterne

                  www.acumenholdings.co.za
                  DISCLAIMER The above is merely a comment in discussion form and an open public arena. It does not constitute a legal opinion or professional advice in any manner or form.

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                  • Sparks
                    Gold Member

                    • Dec 2009
                    • 909

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ians
                    A customer asks you to install a single socket outlet.

                    If a fence company installs an electric fence and you are requested to install a single socket outlet, do you become responsible for the entire electric fence installation?
                    The extent of your liability is the installation described in Section 3 which would be the socket outlet circuit you installed.

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                    • Sparks
                      Gold Member

                      • Dec 2009
                      • 909

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sterne.law@gmail.com
                      How ironic, this post is up.
                      I noticed an electric fence installed in my complex by a resident.
                      Small (1/2 m). It is on Ground level.
                      It has a sign to ,however, small children cannot read.
                      Without derogating form the fact that adults must keep an eye etc, it still poses a risk.
                      Are there specific rules about this?

                      As an example, a fence on the outside of a property is understandable. The owner of the fence must look after their child.
                      It is not unreasonable to think that nay child on teh road is old enough to read and understand or smaller are accompanied by adults.
                      You say inside a complex and that tells me that the Body Corp needs to approve it before it can be erected. As it borders on communal property I would say no it is not acceptable from a common sense point of view even before looking it up. The strength of it would also come into question. If it is weak enough "pet friendly", it might be acceptable.

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                      • Leecatt
                        Silver Member

                        • Jul 2008
                        • 404

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AndyD
                        I won't touch electric fences
                        Lol!
                        To make a mistake is human, to learn from that mistake is knowledge and knowledge is strength.

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