Do Borehole systems require ELCB?

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  • Justloadit
    Diamond Member

    • Nov 2010
    • 3518

    #1

    Do Borehole systems require ELCB?

    Can anyone tell me if single and three phase borehole systems must be on earth leakage protection circuits?
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  • AmithS
    Platinum Member

    • Oct 2008
    • 1520

    #2
    I am not sure but I think it might also take into consideration if you have the pump through a controller or not...

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    • Justloadit
      Diamond Member

      • Nov 2010
      • 3518

      #3
      Yes the pumps will have some type of electronic control for overload and over pumping.
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      • AndyD
        Diamond Member

        • Jan 2010
        • 4946

        #4
        With the regs as present it would depend on the method of installation but as long as the supply is not on a plug and socket and the circuit only supplies the borehole then it's unlikely it would require RCD protection. Whether it's 3 phase or single phase makes no difference when it comes to RCD requirements.
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        • RegElec
          Full Member

          • Oct 2012
          • 72

          #5
          Although submersible pumps 7.2.4.4.2 falls under the pools, spa's etc wouldn't this also apply to boreholes.

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          • AndyD
            Diamond Member

            • Jan 2010
            • 4946

            #6
            The regulation 7.2 addresses 'Swimming pools, paddling pools, ornamental pools, spas and fountains'

            The purpose of those regs is to provide extra protection for people within these zones.

            7.2.1.1 The particular requirements of this subclause apply to the basins
            of swimming pools, paddling pools, ornamental pools, outdoor spas and
            fountains. The requirements also apply to the surrounding zones of all
            these basins. In these areas, in normal use, the effect of electric shock is
            increased by a reduction in body resistance and contact of the body with
            earth potential.
            A borehole wouldn't be classed as a special zone and as I understand it a borehole wouldn't carry the extra risk attached as outlined in bold above.
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            • GCE
              Platinum Member

              • Jun 2017
              • 1473

              #7
              Was asked this question again this morning , so thought I would resurrect the thread.
              There was also a discussion over earthing in another thread pasted below.
              Using SANS 10142-1 ed 2

              Good day all. im currently doing a CoC on a small holding and just want yo know , does a submersible water pump (bore hole) need earth leakage protection? the earthing of the pump complies and all the protection in the control bored is fine but i want to know does the circuit need to be fed from a E/L? Regards



              My understanding was and still is that a normal Borehole pump does not require earth leakage and the regulation that everyone likes to bring up is actually under the section for swimming pools.
              If I am reading section 6.16.5.2 , I would ignore the reference note to clause 7.2.4.4 as the borehole being installed has nothing to do with a swimming pool.
              Have pasted the relevant sections below and would be interested to hear comments.

              Also interesting is that in Ed 3 we will no longer need to run an earth wire all the way to the pump. What better earth is there then a piece of steel ( pump) suspended 100m deep in the earth surrounded by water.


              6.16.5.2 Submersible motors and motors liable to flooding
              NOTE See 7.2.4.4 for pump motors used in pools, spas and fountains.
              6.16.5.2.1 A submersible motor shall
              a) be supplied by suitable marine type flexible cable firmly attached to the
              motor,
              b) use a cable gland that has an efficient water seal, and
              c) be bonded to the earthing system of the installation.
              NOTE A portable water pump can have a submersible motor.
              6.16.5.2.2 Conductive parts associated with a water pump (such as the
              suction pipe, the delivery pipe and the pump casing) shall be bonded to the
              earth continuity conductor. In the case of a submersible borehole motor, the
              bonding to the delivery pipe shall be made above ground and within 300 mm
              of the collar that supports the pipe.



              7.2 Swimming pools, paddling pools, ornamental pools, spas
              and fountains

              7.2.4.4.2 Submersible pumps
              7.2.4.4.2.1 Unless otherwise authorized, a submersible pump shall be fed
              from
              a) a circuit protected by an earth leakage protection device with a rated
              earth leakage tripping current (rated residual current) IΔn not exceeding
              30 mA, or
              b) a class II isolating transformer. The transformer shall have a maximum
              open-circuit voltage of
              1) 250 V single-phase or 440 V three-phase, if the pump is used in an
              ornamental pool or fountain, or
              2) 12 V, if used in other applications

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              • AndyD
                Diamond Member

                • Jan 2010
                • 4946

                #8
                I also read it that the regs above apply to submersible pumps in an environment accessible to people such as swimmimng pools, fountains, water features, spas etc so in my opinion a borehole pump would not fall into this category so would not require earth leakage protection.
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