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  • Derlyn
    Platinum Member

    • Mar 2019
    • 1748

    #1

    An idea for ending loadshedding

    I have an idea that might be able to work and maybe contribute towards ending loadshedding.

    Doing away with load shedding ( rolling blackouts )

    According to Eskom we need to brace ourselves for a protracted period of loadshedding.
    They are talking about 18 months but we all know by now that it will in all probability, judging by
    their predictions and timelines in the past, be nothing short of 36 months.

    Why loadshedding ? To put it simply, they can not produce enough for our requirements.

    Load shedding, even although scheduled, is counter productive and extremely unfair towards
    consumers who go out of their way to conserve electricity. Billions of rands are lost by business
    because of loadshedding.

    Surely there must be a way to avoid load shedding. The advantages of no loadshedding are too
    numerous to list.

    How do we reduce our consumption in a fair and sustainable way and put Eskom in a position
    that it should not be necessary to loadshed ?

    Business needs to carry on unaffected so as not to have a negative impact on the economy.

    My idea is aimed at domestic consumers only and has numerous advantages. They are:

    1. It will not have any negative effect on business.
    2. It will hopefully lure people who are presently illegally connected, to connect legally.
    3. It will benefit the poor.
    4. It will increase Eskom's income derived from the sale of electricity.
    5. It should encourage everyone to use electricity conservatively.

    The idea is simple.

    Instead of blanket loadshedding everyone, only load shed the consumers who use too much.

    The fourth industrial revolution is upon us and smart metering should not be too much of a
    challenge. The meters should be capable of monitoring usage over a 24 hour period and shutting
    off the supply to the installation if the allocated usage is exceeded.

    It could work as follows:

    There can be 4 plans available for purchasing electricity.

    Plan A: Daily usage of 0 to 6 units @ R1 per unit.
    Plan B: Daily usage of 0 to 14 units @ R2 per unit.
    Plan C: Daily usage of 0 to 21 units @ R3 per unit.
    Plan D: Unlimited usage at R4 per unit.

    The customer when purchasing prepaid electricity must specify for which plan they are buying.
    As soon as the plan is entered at the point of sale, the meter knows what the daily limit is.

    To avoid meters all turning off during the night in the event of excess usage, 6 monitoring
    cycles can be used. The consumer has no say into which monitoring cycle they fall.

    It could be spread out as follows:

    Cycle 1: Midnight to midnight.
    Cycle 2: 4am to 4am.
    Cycle 3: 8am to 8am.
    Cycle 4: Midday to midday.
    Cycle 5: 4pm to 4pm.
    Cycle 6: 8pm to 8pm.

    The president has dreams of a smart city and bullet trains.

    The above suggestion should be peanuts to implement.

    What do you think ?


    Cheers & peace out ... Derek
  • Blurock
    Diamond Member

    • May 2010
    • 4203

    #2
    Would it not be easier for government to just allow existing wind and solar farms to link up with the national grid and make more electricity available? Wind and solar farms are lying idle and the billions spent on the useless escom power stations can be invested in more wind and solar energy as well as other sources of power.

    By privatising electricity, you create competition and a more stable and secure supply. Prices will reduce which will benefit all South Africans. Manufacturing costs will reduce and successful, growing businesses will start employing staff again. Citizens will be able to afford hot water, internet and electrical appliances again.

    Load shedding is not an option and no solution for load shedding should ever be considered! Rather get rid of the people who caused it in the first instance!
    Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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    • Leecatt
      Silver Member

      • Jul 2008
      • 404

      #3
      There is already something similar in operation already, it's called Tarriff A.

      "After having consumed your initial 100 free units and up until you reach 600 units you will pay*
      R1.45,60 per unit (R1.46)
      Between 600 and 700 units you will pay
      R2.47,49 per unit (R2.48)
      Above 700 units you will pay*
      R6.97,54 per unit (R6.98)" (extract from my website, Www.ltcelectrical.co.za)

      Perhaps putting ALL non commercial consumers onto Tarriff A would reduce consumption.

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      • adrianh
        Diamond Member

        • Mar 2010
        • 6328

        #4
        Loadshedding based on usage does not make sense. Large families,shared accommodation and small home businesses would then be penalized unfairly.

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        • Justloadit
          Diamond Member

          • Nov 2010
          • 3518

          #5
          I am already paying, copied off my home bill.
          Network Surcharge R 18.36
          Service Charge R139.09
          Demand Management Levy R416.47
          Totaling R 555.56, and with VAT is R 638.89 before I have even consumed 1kWatt, so where do the above tariffs even fit into?
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          • Justloadit
            Diamond Member

            • Nov 2010
            • 3518

            #6
            Originally posted by adrianh
            Loadshedding based on usage does not make sense. Large families,shared accommodation and small home businesses would then be penalized unfairly.
            This is just another way to get more bucks out of you. Legalized theft!
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            • Leecatt
              Silver Member

              • Jul 2008
              • 404

              #7
              Originally posted by adrianh
              Loadshedding based on usage does not make sense. Large families,shared accommodation and small home businesses would then be penalized unfairly.
              Thinking about it now, putting everyone on Tarrif A may achieve the following :

              1. Restrict the number of people living in one property by making it impractical due to lack, or expense, of electricity. Anyone who lives next door to five families living on one property will understand this.
              2. Forcing small home businesses to register their business correctly, with corresponding tax implications, before applying for a commercial electrical supply.

              Just a thought

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              • adrianh
                Diamond Member

                • Mar 2010
                • 6328

                #8
                Originally posted by Leecatt
                Thinking about it now, putting everyone on Tarrif A may achieve the following :

                1. Restrict the number of people living in one property by making it impractical due to lack, or expense, of electricity. Anyone who lives next door to five families living on one property will understand this.
                2. Forcing small home businesses to register their business correctly, with corresponding tax implications, before applying for a commercial electrical supply.

                Just a thought

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                I disagree with everything you say!

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                • Leecatt
                  Silver Member

                  • Jul 2008
                  • 404

                  #9
                  Originally posted by adrianh
                  I disagree with everything you say!
                  And I appreciate your point point of view!

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                  • Blurock
                    Diamond Member

                    • May 2010
                    • 4203

                    #10
                    I have to agree with Adrianh. Any "solution" to load shedding sounds exactly like people repairing their own roads, fixing potholes, picking up trash, arranging soup kitchens and shelters for the destitute using their own means while the incompetent ANC government sits back and laughs at us for being so guillable! It is the same as people visiting their loved ones in a state hospital and having to provide their own bed sheets and food for the patient just because the state hospitals are being mismanaged by corrupt officials. This is not putting pressure on government to sort out their $#!t and get off their lazy backsides.
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                    • adrianh
                      Diamond Member

                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6328

                      #11
                      The problem with making those who DO pay, will pay more for electricity is that the who DO NOT pay are not affected. Even if I gave all the money I make to ESKOM it will not change the fact that there is a very very large proportion of the "public" who simply pay nothing, owe a lot and probably never will pay anything.

                      As all things go in this country it is a ever dwindling middle class that sponsors everybody else. (Ever dwindling because they (us) all move abroad eventually)

                      Even if we did fix ESKOM and we had 100% power 100% of the time 70% of the population will still not pay for it no matter how cheap it costs because they have become accustomed to not paying and having the debt written off.

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                      • adrianh
                        Diamond Member

                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6328

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Leecatt
                        And I appreciate your point point of view!

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                        Its just a difference of opinion on this particular matter - its good to bounce ideas around.
                        I'm just tired of having my family life and my small business be affected by ESKOM all the time. Yes I spent R25k on a diesel generator but I prefer not to use it if I don't have to.

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                        • Derlyn
                          Platinum Member

                          • Mar 2019
                          • 1748

                          #13
                          Originally posted by adrianh
                          Its just a difference of opinion on this particular matter - its good to bounce ideas around.
                          I'm just tired of having my family life and my small business be affected by ESKOM all the time. Yes I spent R25k on a diesel generator but I prefer not to use it if I don't have to.
                          That was the whole point of this post.

                          I am also tired of having to endure rolling blackouts (call it what it is ) seeing that I have taken reasonable steps to minimize our consumption.
                          We use on average 120 units a month.

                          Unfortunately with these complex problems, there is no "one size fits all" solution, but we as electricians are problem solvers and it's great that, as you say, ideas are being bounced around.

                          Who knows, maybe someone who is in a position to influence policy is following this forum and picks up on something that can be of assistance.


                          Cheers and peace out ... Derek

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                          • ians
                            Diamond Member

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 3943

                            #14
                            Its all about planning...

                            think about...

                            insulate just below the roof tiles.

                            or blow the the hot air out in summer and rotate the fan to suck the hot air in during winter.

                            spend a bit of cash on decent UV protection for your windows.

                            gas geyser

                            gas stove.

                            fit solar panels on the roof with minimal batteries (they cost money and need to be replaced) for essential services...CCTV ...alarm...gates...security lights... and a light in each room....increase your battery backup in the alarm etc to last 12 hours min...or buy a small smart charger and a couple spare 7 amp/hr batteries and rotate them when they get tired.

                            run everything flat out during the day ...during peak sun time...pool pumps ...fridges freezers all on max ...even the aircons if you have...keep the house cool even if you are not home....when the sun goes down ...switch off what doesnt need to run and idle the fridges etc ...why the hell have you got a months worth of food in the fridge in any case it not like there is going to be a zombie apocalypse tomorrow... let the supermarket keep the stuff cold and store the stuff.

                            For companies ...start investing in solar panels... the company is in full swing during the day ...when the sun shines...run as much as you can off the solar ...keep the battery backup to a min. ..its not cheap to replace ...even when the load shedding goes away (if it every does)...this shyte hole is falling through its own a$$ ...nothing gets better we just try harder to make it better for ourselves... dont get me started with the trucks which have to trim the trees on the freeway because some ahole has looted your rates and taxes...lets just leave that there.

                            You may not be able to reverse your meter because they will replace it as soon as you notify them of your intentions to install solar ...but open your eyes ...a business operates during the day ...your electricity account will reduce monthly by consuming solar power instead of eskom power ...you cant loose... dont waste money on batteries ...rather focus on solar power during peak hours and switch to eskom when the sun goes down ...just instal enough batteries to keep critical services running if there is no eskom.

                            dont waste money on cheap crap LED lights ...it gets expensive to replace them all the time.
                            Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                            • Rifrug
                              Full Member

                              • Nov 2019
                              • 70

                              #15
                              Great topic Derek
                              It’s like Ians suggest “planning” Everyone needs to start planning even if it’s just a gas hob or a solar geyser, but you cannot afford to do nothing and wait for Eskom. I started last year by installing a solar geyser and shortly after installing solar panels and inverter, it was expensive but by planning I still managed to keep costs reasonably low and have not looked back since. People complain off the cost of excessive prices but if you are an electrician you already have the advantage to do your own installation and save thousands.
                              I saw a big drop in my Eskom bill and think why did I never do this earlier. I have now after a year taken some of the savings and plough it into more solar power.
                              The way I see it as soon as Ramaphosa is thrown out the next president will again have different priorities, so we all need to become self sufficient.

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