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  • Andrew_van_Zyl
    Bronze Member

    • Mar 2022
    • 131

    #1

    Size of Earth conductor

    Just checking if I'm interpreting 10142 - "6.12 Earthing" correctly:-

    Can I use 1.5mm earth cable with 2.5mm phase conductors?
    -Single conductors - house wire.
    -Small domestic flat not exceeding 50m lengths - more like 20m max
    -20A circuit breaker

    Many thanks!
  • GCE
    Platinum Member

    • Jun 2017
    • 1473

    #2
    If you look at Table 6.28(a) - on a C/Breaker where Im = 10x In and the CB is 20Amp the max length of earth wire at 1,5sqmm will be 30m

    Don't run the 1,5sqmm to the geyser as that it another whole can of worms.

    I would say you can run a 1,5sqmm as long as the length is under 30m

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    • Andrew_van_Zyl
      Bronze Member

      • Mar 2022
      • 131

      #3
      Many thanks GCE

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      • Andrew_van_Zyl
        Bronze Member

        • Mar 2022
        • 131

        #4
        Originally posted by GCE
        If you look at Table 6.28(a) - on a C/Breaker where Im = 10x In and the CB is 20Amp the max length of earth wire at 1,5sqmm will be 30m

        Don't run the 1,5sqmm to the geyser as that it another whole can of worms.

        I would say you can run a 1,5sqmm as long as the length is under 30m
        GCE - for educational purposes, what are the issues when using the same rationale for a geyser? 6.28(a) Would indicate it's ok?

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        • GCE
          Platinum Member

          • Jun 2017
          • 1473

          #5
          Originally posted by Andrew_van_Zyl
          GCE - for educational purposes, what are the issues when using the same rationale for a geyser? 6.28(a) Would indicate it's ok?
          The bonding conductor must be 2,5sqmm - Was a long discussion in a previous thread and I have pasted the link and relevant pieces below
          I notice a lot of people uses 1.5 and 2.5 surfix on geysers :confused: I know the answer to this, based on the amps and distance I can do this.. Also the cost of the cable is less :banghead: My question is just if bonding and earthing requires at least 2.5 earth conductor is the geyser then leggily earthed and bonded or do I



          If all pipes are pvc then the geyser needs to be bonded as per 6.16.2 - Then that is where the grey area of Twin & earth not having a full 2,5sqmm earth will come in.

          6.13.2.2 Hot and cold water systems
          Where the hot water system includes electric components and the water pipes
          are of conducting material, hot and cold water systems shall be bonded
          together and also be bonded to the earth continuity conductor system

          6.16.2 Water heaters
          NOTE Water heaters include geysers, instantaneous water heaters including units for
          boiling water, heat pumps, solar systems, induction water heaters and the like (see also
          6.16.1). electrode water heaters, steam generators and boilers are not included (refer
          to 6.16.7)
          6.16.2.1 All water heaters shall be bonded in accordance with 6.13 and a.c.
          supply circuits shall be protected by earth leakage protection with IΔn not
          exceeding 30 mA.
          NOTE To mitigate nuisance earth leakage tripping, an additional earth leakage may
          be provided.
          6.13 Bonding
          NOTE 1 The aim of bonding is to bring all the bonded parts to the same electrical
          potential.
          NOTE 2 No external conductor is required if compliance with the requirements for
          continuity can be proved by the test in 8.6.2.

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          • Andrew_van_Zyl
            Bronze Member

            • Mar 2022
            • 131

            #6
            Originally posted by GCE
            The bonding conductor must be 2,5sqmm - Was a long discussion in a previous thread and I have pasted the link and relevant pieces below
            https://www.theforumsa.co.za/forums/...ng-and-bonding
            Many thanks

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