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  • Lourens99
    New Member
    • Jun 2023
    • 1

    #1

    [Question] Ripcord

    Hi can anyone point me to the right regulation regarding ripcord supplying a single socket wall plug (fixed to wall) as well as supplying a second double wall plug(also fixed to wall.)
    the second ripcord supplies yet another single wall plug also fixed to wall.
    oh and before i forget both ripcords feed from 1 16A plug top plugged in to original wall socket.
  • GCE
    Platinum Member

    • Jun 2017
    • 1473

    #2
    Originally posted by Lourens99
    Hi can anyone point me to the right regulation regarding ripcord supplying a single socket wall plug (fixed to wall) as well as supplying a second double wall plug(also fixed to wall.)
    the second ripcord supplies yet another single wall plug also fixed to wall.
    oh and before i forget both ripcords feed from 1 16A plug top plugged in to original wall socket.
    being ripcord I assume no earth - That would be the easiest regulations to fail it on - There are many more

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    • Dylboy
      Gold Member

      • Jun 2020
      • 777

      #3
      This gets interesting as it may be considered an appliance.

      However as discussed before if it is physically attached to the house brick and mortar I believe it is part of the electrical installation as it is fixed thus needs to comply with overfurrent and short circuit protection as well as the cable ratings for such and socket circuits not supplied by less than a cable that is rated less than 16amps.

      But keen to find out what others think of it being an appliance or part of the electrical installation as one Dan argue to just un plug it and then no longer part of it.

      While typing a socket can be used as a isolation device so then again it's part of the electrical installation and must comply

      Sent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk

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      • GCE
        Platinum Member

        • Jun 2017
        • 1473

        #4
        Originally posted by Dylboy
        This gets interesting as it may be considered an appliance.

        However as discussed before if it is physically attached to the house brick and mortar I believe it is part of the electrical installation as it is fixed thus needs to comply with overfurrent and short circuit protection as well as the cable ratings for such and socket circuits not supplied by less than a cable that is rated less than 16amps.

        But keen to find out what others think of it being an appliance or part of the electrical installation as one Dan argue to just un plug it and then no longer part of it.

        While typing a socket can be used as a isolation device so then again it's part of the electrical installation and must comply

        Sent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk
        The fixed appliance excuse went out the window a couple of editions ago - In my opinion the 2 regulations pasted below close down the fixed appliance route



        6.16.1.5 A socket-outlet shall supply only one fixed appliance. The use of
        flexible cords of length exceeding 3 m is not recommended. The reason for
        this recommendation is an endeavour to ensure operation of the overcurrent
        protective device. (See also 6.14.1.4 for luminaires).

        6.16.1.10 The wiring between different parts of a fixed appliance that are
        installed separately is part of the fixed installation
        , even where it is supplied
        from a socket-outlet, unless such wiring is less than 3 m in length.
        Such wiring shall be protected by separate overload protection unless its
        current-carrying capacity is such that the circuit protection of the socket-outlet
        circuit will provide protection or that part of the appliance has built-in thermal
        overload protection.
        NOTE Where the length of wiring exceeds 3 m, the impedance and the functioning of
        the protective devices need to be considered to satisfy the overcurrent protection
        requirements in this part of SANS 10142.

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        • Isetech
          Platinum Member

          • Mar 2022
          • 2274

          #5
          As pointed out by GCE, take note of 3.3.3.

          3.3.3
          fixed appliance
          appliance that is fastened or otherwise secured at a specific location, and
          that would require the use of tools to be moved to another location

          Originally posted by Lourens99
          Hi can anyone point me to the right regulation regarding ripcord supplying a single socket wall plug (fixed to wall) as well as supplying a second double wall plug(also fixed to wall.)
          the second ripcord supplies yet another single wall plug also fixed to wall.
          oh and before i forget both ripcords feed from 1 16A plug top plugged in to original wall socket.
          Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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