Go green, Sunsynk inverter in toilet area

[Thys LOW Elektries]

Not sure about you guys but I think this is not safe and maybe dangerous, but on the upside, you may have an extraction fan for gases.



Maybe it is OK since it is a Sunsynk

[Isetech]

Not dangerous, there are no special zones in a toilet, common sense would tell me not to install it in kak house, but I have seen far worse.

The volume of explosive gasses shouldnt be an issue either

Clearly lithium batteries are not as dangerous as people in SA make them out to be.

Consider this installation is in the house of the person who use to run technical training centers in the UK, is involved in extensive training in the UK, deals with training centres around the UK, etc etc.

You could also look at it from another angle, why electricians shouldn't be installing solar and lithium batteries without the correct training

https://www.efixx.co.uk/

The question you have to ask, who are the fools? The people in SA still using battery regulations from the 80's or the lithium battery manufacturer, who has lithium batteries installed

[Dave A]

Can someone remind me again, what gases are given off by these modern day Lithium batteries during normal operation?

[Thys LOW Elektries]

The problem is when talking about Lithium batteries people generalize the batteries, assuming all Lithium batteries are the same. Social media showing lithium batteries in cellphones, electric toys exploding, and scooters catching fire is fueling the debate on Lithium batteries being unsafe.
I read an article once on the various types of Lithium batteries you get, some are dangerous concoctions waiting to explode, the Lifepo4 batteries and a few other brands they had difficulty igniting them in a laboratory, so yes these are the stable and safe type to use

[Isetech]

I am referring to the gasses from the person using the toilet

Sewer gas can contain methane and hydrogen sulfide, both highly flammable and potentially explosive substances. As such, ignition of the gas is possible with flame or sparks.

Can someone remind me again, what gases are given off by these modern day Lithium batteries during normal operation?

[Isetech]

I am yet to find someone who can give me the facts, not even the manufacturer can provide me with installation guidelines, they just throw the ball back into your court and tell you to abide by the local regulations, which I am not aware of any guidelines for lithium Lifepo4 in SA. There are basic guidelines used in Australia, which would fail 90% of lithium battery in SA.

A lot factors would need to be taken into consideration, the battery size, enclosure material type, capacity of the battery, type of protection to prevent overloading, over charging, temperature cutout etc, Type of extinguisher to be used and many other factors.

Until someone can provide this type of information, dont let anyone bullshyte you, that the battery must be installed all the way out in the garage, its just money jam, which creates other problem like volt drop etc. It's just the social media sheep following blindly like fools. Who would that stupid to mount a battery in front of a garage, where a motor vehicle could drive into, without any mechanical protection. Just smile.

All rules and regulations are superseded by manufacturer specifications. Like cables, the regs are there as guidelines, however if the manufacture has designed and improved the cable to meet higher specifications, the spec sheet can be attached to your test report.

IF there was such document, the only company I would think could produce one, would be BLue Nova, they make good quality batteries (I bought one and chopped it up to see how well the make them)

The problem is when talking about Lithium batteries people generalize the batteries, assuming all Lithium batteries are the same. Social media showing lithium batteries in cellphones, electric toys exploding, and scooters catching fire is fueling the debate on Lithium batteries being unsafe.
I read an article once on the various types of Lithium batteries you get, some are dangerous concoctions waiting to explode, the Lifepo4 batteries and a few other brands they had difficulty igniting them in a laboratory, so yes these are the stable and safe type to use