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  • Sparks
    Gold Member

    • Dec 2009
    • 909

    #1

    PV Suppliers?

    Hi guys, does anyone know who stocks 16 and 25mm PV cables? Inverter max capacity is 80A and I will have 68A to connect between combiner box and inverter. A single cable from the combiner box inverter isolator will be neater than having all my strings cables in bigger trunking.
  • Isetech
    Platinum Member

    • Mar 2022
    • 2274

    #2
    You dont need to use PV cables between the combiner and the inverter, the PV cables are double insulated for use on the roof.

    Just make sure the cable is suitable for the DC voltage.

    Originally posted by Sparks
    Hi guys, does anyone know who stocks 16 and 25mm PV cables? Inverter max capacity is 80A and I will have 68A to connect between combiner box and inverter. A single cable from the combiner box inverter isolator will be neater than having all my strings cables in bigger trunking.
    Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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    • Sparks
      Gold Member

      • Dec 2009
      • 909

      #3
      Thank you Isetech, I did consider that but would like to use fire retardent cables if possible, the batteries and inverter are just below and should anything untoward occur, at least I would have tried limiting more damage. As it is, the terminals on the inverter were not exactly designed for 25mm cables which would be the correct size for 80A DC

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      • Isetech
        Platinum Member

        • Mar 2022
        • 2274

        #4
        IF you are concerned about fire, I hope you are not using PVC trunking as most domestic installations are done, I would be using metal trunking (P8 or 9000). Please tell me you combiner box is also metal, I hear all this talk about fires, yet 99.9% of domestic solar installations posted on social media use the dangerous home made DC PVCcontrol boxes.


        Originally posted by Sparks
        Thank you Isetech, I did consider that but would like to use fire retardent cables if possible, the batteries and inverter are just below and should anything untoward occur, at least I would have tried limiting more damage. As it is, the terminals on the inverter were not exactly designed for 25mm cables which would be the correct size for 80A DC
        Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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        • Sparks
          Gold Member

          • Dec 2009
          • 909

          #5
          Originally posted by Isetech
          IF you are concerned about fire, I hope you are not using PVC trunking as most domestic installations are done, I would be using metal trunking (P8 or 9000). Please tell me you combiner box is also metal, I hear all this talk about fires, yet 99.9% of domestic solar installations posted on social media use the dangerous home made DC PVCcontrol boxes.
          Yes, I agree, earthed metal boxes and conduit are the way to do it. I have not started the installation yet as I am first trying to get the cables I want.

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          • Isetech
            Platinum Member

            • Mar 2022
            • 2274

            #6
            For the record its not lithium batteries bursting into flames and burning down buildings, I hear the most common cause of fires in domestic installations are the home made plastic DC control boxes, full of 'imported" Dc components supplied and fitted by installers.
            Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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            • Isetech
              Platinum Member

              • Mar 2022
              • 2274

              #7
              Check the manufacturers spec sheet, these cables have a much better current rating than our standard house wires.

              Originally posted by Sparks
              Yes, I agree, earthed metal boxes and conduit are the way to do it. I have not started the installation yet as I am first trying to get the cables I want.
              Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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              • GCE
                Platinum Member

                • Jun 2017
                • 1473

                #8
                Originally posted by Isetech
                For the record its not lithium batteries bursting into flames and burning down buildings, I hear the most common cause of fires in domestic installations are the home made plastic DC control boxes, full of 'imported" Dc components supplied and fitted by installers.
                Most burnt connections etc I have seen are bad workmanship , strands cut off before fitting into lugs , AC equipment used in place of DC , DC CB used on batteries and the CB are not bi direction but Bi Polar and fault levels not taken into account

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                • Isetech
                  Platinum Member

                  • Mar 2022
                  • 2274

                  #9
                  you could add loose connections to that list.


                  Originally posted by GCE
                  Most burnt connections etc I have seen are bad workmanship , strands cut off before fitting into lugs , AC equipment used in place of DC , DC CB used on batteries and the CB are not bi direction but Bi Polar and fault levels not taken into account
                  Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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                  • Sparks
                    Gold Member

                    • Dec 2009
                    • 909

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Isetech
                    you could add loose connections to that list.
                    I agree with both of you, another problem is also that people store paints and chemicals in their garage. Last week I worked on an installation where they had a setup installed last year and the people thought it a good idea to store corrosives beneath the inverter. Needless to say everything is corroded and they can kiss their warranty goodbye

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                    • GCE
                      Platinum Member

                      • Jun 2017
                      • 1473

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sparks
                      I agree with both of you, another problem is also that people store paints and chemicals in their garage. Last week I worked on an installation where they had a setup installed last year and the people thought it a good idea to store corrosives beneath the inverter. Needless to say everything is corroded and they can kiss their warranty goodbye
                      Hopefully you noticed that the BMS comms between battery and inverter was missing , panels missing centre clamps , rails missing roof truss brkts , PV wires forcd between roof tiles the list is endless - The warranty was gone long before that and it will not be the first one that has popped in that complex due to over paneling and incorrect setting up

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                      • Isetech
                        Platinum Member

                        • Mar 2022
                        • 2274

                        #12
                        The user/lessor is responsible for the electrical installation. Once you have signed off the COC the responsible person must take responsibility for their actions, if they going to store all the fuel for the mowers and weed eater, off road bikes and boat etc. You will not be held responsible. Its called common sense. If you install the battery lower than 1.2 m and dont fit mechanical protection for the battery, knowing the vehicles park in the garage and the customer drives into he battery and it burns the house down, then you could be held responsible for your stupidity.

                        Originally posted by Sparks
                        I agree with both of you, another problem is also that people store paints and chemicals in their garage. Last week I worked on an installation where they had a setup installed last year and the people thought it a good idea to store corrosives beneath the inverter. Needless to say everything is corroded and they can kiss their warranty goodbye
                        Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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