How to get Wiremans License?

[Jacechop]

When you find it please post it here. There is valuable information in this thread and will be nice to keep it all current and informative for the next guy?

[Jacechop]

I stand corrected!!!! https://checkout.netsuite.com/app/ce...42/sc.6/n.1/.f

That will take you to the up and coming online registration (annually) and electronic CoC'c.

[johnr86]

Ok, There is alot of valuable information but I'm still in the..... dark(electrician joke maybe? :P)

I'm interested in becoming a master electrician and I stay in Durban. Is there anyone who has achieved this recently and knows the system and where to go?
I'm currently working as a "maintenance & contracts technician" on mechanical,electrical and instrumentation systems including lots of admin work.
I have the following:
1) NDip S4 Mechanical Engineering (DUT)
2) S3 Electrical Engineering-Mechatronics (UNISA)- 3 subjects left until finsished S4.....hopefully!
3) Trade Tested Electrician 3 phase since April last year.

Does the fact that I am busy with Mechatronics and not Power Engineering a problem?
Is the fact that I am not working strictly as an "electrician" a problem?
Do I have to finish S4 Electrical to start with the master electrician process?
Do I need a specific amount of years experience post trade qualification?

Thanks for the help!

[BlueArc]

In order to become a master installation electrician you will need to have the following:
1. Be registered with the DoL as an installation electrician for TWO years.
2. You need to submit proof that you have worked in a hazardous location for a least one full year
3. Complete the unit standards for specialized electrical installations
4. Have completed S4 specifically in Power Engineering OR T3 in Heavy Current
5. Passed the subject "Specialised electrical installation codes"

This is just one way, which for me was the best and easiest, but there are 2 other routes to go.
If you need more info you can contact the ECA and they can send you a document with the registration criteria.
Unfortunately this process take well over 6 months to go through after you have sumitted your application since the DoL is pretty much useless AND everything gets sent up to Pretoria for reviewing etc.

Hope this helps you!

[johnr86]

Thanks for the info!

[Yuri]

I have completed my 3ph wireman's
And completed paper 1 & 2 of specialized instolation rules
Now the only problem is to get the unit standards for masters
All the places i have contacted puts you on a waiting list until thy think there is the corect amount of students. Then thy give the class
Is there a place that i do not have to wait that i can just do the course at?

[Daniel C]

I have recently done the unit standards at the following. They are very helpful. The main guy to talk to is Peter Smuts but there are other people as well who will help.
Western Cape Approved electrical inspection authority. Telephone: 021 - 987 3010 Facsimile: 021 - 987 3083 Email: training@wcaeia.co.za
1 Robert Road, Kraaifontein
P.O. Box 163, Cape Gate, 7562

[carryn-leigh]

Hi

My boyfriend has been working in the electrical industry for 8 years now. He never finished high school, and started working almost as soon as he left (at the end of grade 8). He has done some subjects here and there. My question is
1) Is there such a thing as "qualification through experience"?
2) Failing that, will the subjects he has done so far (through 2 or 3 different institutions) count if he carries on studying next year?
I am worried that he will have to start from scratch again.

Thanks

[AndyD]

When you say he's done some subjects here and there, are these 'unit standards'? Can you be more specific? There's not really any such thing as qualifying by experience, it's possible to qualify by having other relevant and usually higher qualifications such as an electrical engineering degree.

[carryn-leigh]

As far as I understand, I don't think he has done the unit standards. I can't find his academic records, so I'm not sure what he has or hasn't done exactly. He tells me that 'all he needs to do' is N2 and N3 Maths (although he is under the impression he can jump straight to N3 without doing the N2 module) and then N2 and N3 Engineering Science.
The reason I am asking about the experience thing is some engineer told him that the law was recently changed so that you can just get your qualification by experience. Personally, I think he is just holding on to anything that says he doesn't have to study.

[Yuri]

Is he looking to be a single phase tester
He needs 5 years experience in electrical instolation work letter from his employer
And myst compleat eseta traing for single phase tester

[carryn-leigh]

No, he would need to get his Installation Electrician licence. He works for a company that deals with factory maintanance and the likes. From what I have read, a single phase tester only works on houses and smaller buildings.
I tried to speak to him about all this, but he is insistant that I have no clue what is going on. I guess you can only lead a horse to water, hey?

[Yuri]

Then he needs to be qualified ( red seal )
He needs N3 with maths, engenering science, and electro technology or electrical triad theory
Must have the paper 1 & 2 of instolation rules is specific time
He must have completed the unit standard on 3 phase testing... eseta certificate

[Dave A]

The reason I am asking about the experience thing is some engineer told him that the law was recently changed so that you can just get your qualification by experience.

The engineer was probably referring to Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL). The short answer is it exists in theory, but rarely in practice for anything of significance, and still requires a structured assessment process.

The objective was to be enable the issuing of certificates as recognition of basic skills acquired and demonstrated. It was also supposed to deal with issues of qualification equivalency, but there's a member here called skatingsparks that will testify that when it comes to getting the wiremans licence in SA, equivalency does not fly very well.

There is very little flexibility and certainly no QBE.

[businesssuccess]

Hi All

I work for Business Success Solutions, we provide engineering training and conferences and currently have an event on SANS 10142-1 Including Amendment 8 it can also help in clearly up issues when it comes to the Wiremans Licence as we have the MD from the GEIA that will be presenting this event.

Should you require a program with the dates please drop me an e-mail on magnum@businesssuccess.co.za

Best Regards
Magnum