frequency...how important

[murdock]

The only way you're going to do that is to get your property revalued at a much lower price.

busy doing that as we speak but its not as simple as i thought...i have to get hold of an estate agent get sales of properties close to mine...then give a break down of why my property value is less...so i have taken piuctures of all the work required to fix up the house stripped all my carpets out...and just lef tthe concrete floors for now...used a high pressure cleaner to take most of the paint off the walls so it look really bad...once the rates...electricity etc is sorted out i will start revamping the whole house.

[Dave A]

Seems a bit drastic

[AndyD]

Sounds well dodgy.

You're living like a pikey because you have a rates bill of under a grand.

...so i have.......stripped all my carpets out...and just lef tthe concrete floors for now...used a high pressure cleaner to take most of the paint off the walls so it look really bad...once the rates...electricity etc is sorted out i will start revamping the whole house.

This sounds a bit obsessive compulsive to me. I'm glad I'm not living next door to you, your neighbors property prices are probably also dropping so fast their ears are popping.

[AndyD]

Not much sense in calling a terminal an earth if it isn't "earthed" properly

Here's an idle thought - If your live and neutral are completely "untethered" to the local potential throughout the entire installation, what are the chances of you developing a fairly substantial voltage difference between earth and the phases? (I'm thinking if there was some sort of Van De Graaf generator effect in that genset or elsewhere in the installation for some bizarre reason).

A very good point, anyone touching earth and the neutral of the generator would get a brutal wallop. Earthing prevents this from happening.

Just to clarify, my concerns about the neutral and earth of the generator being connected were if the generator is not connected to a house DB and getting it's earth bond from there. If for example the generator was used standalone like this and didn't have an earth spike then the chassis would by elevated the the same voltage as the neutral.

[Dave A]

If for example the generator was used standalone like this and didn't have an earth spike then the chassis would by elevated the the same voltage as the neutral.

No contest from my side

I think we're boxing the same point, just from different angles.

[murdock]

Sounds well dodgy.

You're living like a pikey because you have a rates bill of under a grand.


This sounds a bit obsessive compulsive to me. I'm glad I'm not living next door to you, your neighbors property prices are probably also dropping so fast their ears are popping.

and the sound of the generator must be driving them nuts...the more their property value drops the better my rates argument will become.

[murdock]

by the way my metro bill...including
lights
water
rates
sewage
refuse removal

was only R500 less than my bond

it use to be a small percentage...now its almost the same...for the rich amd famous its no big deal but what about us lower income people...we are stuck in the middle...we dont qualify for the poor peoples benefits and we dont earn big bucks the the rich people.

and all i hear are people complaing...but no action.

just to let you know my electricity reading from beginning of december till today....just over 400 kw for 2 months yes please i know when i send my meter reading thru today they will complain that there is a problem with my meter...last month when i sent it thru i got a R2500 credit but they bitched like anything...it was great to hear them complaining for a change...the bonus is i dont have a fuse on the pole so they cant say i have been bypassing the meter...and my electricity is completely bypassed from the meter box.

there is one good thing coming of this my positive action instead of whining all the time ... am taking a positive steps in the right direction.

another thing i have let my grass on my verge grow to the same height as the council property next to mine...so now you cant tell the diffrence between my verge and the adjacent council property...it all looks the same.

[AndyD]

........was only R500 less than my bond

it use to be a small percentage...now its almost the same...

Yeah but your bond doesn't go up each year with inflation whereas your rates do so it's always going to be the case that the rates end up proportionally more with each yearly increase. This is especially so at the moment where interest rates are very low so your bond repayment will have dropped.

[murdock]

there must have been some serious inflation for my rates to go up from R300 to over R900 in one month....i can still feel the vortex of the rushed in my throat...

please xplain to me what rates are for...

if i pay for water and connection costs
electricity and electricity connection costs ...and boy do you pay...long time ago it was just a connection cost...now you pay for everything
i pay for the roads we drive on...through various means....tolls vehicle registrations....etc etc
i pay for refuse removal
i pay for sewage
i pay for my kids to go to school and any extention on to buildings etc...thru fund raisers etc
i pay for medical aid and doctors visits and hospital visits
i pay huge bucks to buy a piece of land or a house...which the bank owns

so plesae explain why rates?

[murdock]

Sounds well dodgy.

You're living like a pikey because you have a rates bill of under a grand.


This sounds a bit obsessive compulsive to me. I'm glad I'm not living next door to you, your neighbors property prices are probably also dropping so fast their ears are popping.

thats what the head shrink told me the last time i was there...but she said it wasnt all bad because i also seems to have the worse case of hhddd...but if channeled in the right direction it could explain why i am extremely efficient at my work when i want to be...

if i can get their property prices down i get a reduction in rates....my property is beginningto look like the council properties...so it doesnt really stand out in fact it blends in...its the people who cut their verges who look out...there is an up side to the long grass and thick bush...wild life.