BEE - who what where, and how?

[Jacques#1]

I take it you do more than 5mil than murdock? Cause Sterne says you can do it yourself, Ive alreasy finished typing mine, and sent it off to my accountant to sign. :

[murdock]

since i started my bussiness in 1991 till now maybe but not per year...i was thinking of getting a certificate just so it looks good in my office then every year after that get a letter from my accountant.

i think it depends on the people you are dealing with...some of the big companies i deal with would be impressed with a certificate and it could help for future contracts...just my thought on it.

i could also start sending a copy with all my quotes and invoices...make my company look more proffessional.

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

Hey some of the certificates are really impressive!!!

Most companies are looking for the proof in order to do their calculation in the procurement element of their scorecard. Generally the person doing their certificate will approach all the suppliers to confirm the money spent with them and proof of the level, so the fancy element may not be such an issue.

When starting their are so many costs so taking the cheapest route is often best. however one may find that 100% level is not proving a competitive advantage and a better rating is required. Then budget for that each month or pay it over to the agency each month so that by the year end the cash flow is eased.

Alternatively nothing stops you in a few months from upgrading to the fancy certificate.

PS: I sometimes feel to register a company called Doctorate of Whatever - then hang that big fancy thing up and people will think i have a doctorate in whatever field I chose..ha ha

[Dave A]

As far as I know, a previous discussion on EMEs and appropriate evidence still stands. It's only QSEs and upward that require certificates from an accredited verification agency if they want to claim a BEE status. A letter from your auditor/accountant with the correct wording does the trick for EME's.

If you really want an EME certificate, why not get one from the DTI? It works out at R285.00 as I recall. It's nothing fancy, but who would argue a certicate issued from the department itself

[murdock]

while filling out my bee eme declaration form...i found some small print at the bottom of the page...

"black people" includes africans...coloureds...indian...and chinese persons...who are south african citizens...by birth or by descent or who were naturalised prior to the commencement of the interim constitution in 1993.

now my question is white children born after 1994 are they classified as south afircans or are they also gona be discrimnated against like the rest of us? and why are all white south africans being discrimanted against...my children had nothing to do with appartheid...it is like saying that because juluis malema is a racist calling all whites imperialists...all blacks are raciests.

we all need to move on and unite as one country with one leader who has everyones interest at heart.

if there are farm workers being abused then the goverment needs to step in and take legal action and make sure that it is addressed in a humane manner.

there is no need to act like savages and kill each other.

i believe the majority of people in this country want a better life for "ALL" the people of this country...and it is only a few who dont who are destablising the reform process.

i also believe there is no need to be singing songs like kill the boer...just like there is no need to call black people the k word in the new south africa...imagine if all the whites starting using that word when refering to black people it would cause an uproar...we all have to sacrifice parts of our history like our old flag...road names...jobs...to make way for a united country where we can all live in peace.

you notice the first thing that went up at the memorial...the old south african flag...clearly indicating people holding onto the past...what should have happened was a new south african flag with all race groups condeming the brutal murder not chanting hero...this country has a long way to go.

[Jacques#1]

you know what may work....If the inernational community is given undeniable evidence of all the things happening here. I have spoken to numerous internationals, and they believe that everything is fine. When telling them what happens here on a daily basis you must see the shock on their faces. No imagine a Barak Obama or a Queen mother giving Zuma a call: "hey cuz, whats all this racial rubbish I'm hearing about u oakes over in SA?" "if you don't do something I'll sanction you, and you can kiss your R10mil house adious"

That should get some action?

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

This is confirmed - Start ups and exempt enterprises DO NOT need a verified certificate.

[murdock]

you know what may work....If the inernational community is given undeniable evidence of all the things happening here. I have spoken to numerous internationals, and they believe that everything is fine. When telling them what happens here on a daily basis you must see the shock on their faces. No imagine a Barak Obama or a Queen mother giving Zuma a call: "hey cuz, whats all this racial rubbish I'm hearing about u oakes over in SA?" "if you don't do something I'll sanction you, and you can kiss your R10mil house adious"

That should get some action?

not really the chinese will step in with pleasure...remeber they need space to live clean air and water...to dump waste...and they are clssified as blacks in this country...so they get 115 % bbbeeee...so they are better off and are classified higher in this country than white people...makes you think...mmmmmmmm.

[Jacques#1]

not really the chinese will step in with pleasure...remeber they need space to live clean air and water...to dump waste...and they are clssified as blacks in this country...so they get 115 % bbbeeee...so they are better off and are classified higher in this country than white people...makes you think...mmmmmmmm.

probably tru

[Jacques#1]

Thanks Dave...The DTI thing is even free, and you get all the snazzy BBBEEE numbers etc. You only pay the R285 if you advertise with them to use your status for advertisement on their site.

[murdock]

busy with mine...from dti..just waiting for accountant to give paper work...got my number.

how long did it take to get a certificate?

[Dave A]

how long did it take to get a certificate?

It was pretty quick - a couple of working days at most. They email it to you. From there you can print it, email it on etc.