Jessica Leandra Dos Santos racial tweets

[Citizen X]

I suppose on a sensitive matter such as this, one can only really speak for oneself. I personally have accepted her apology and have since moved on. She's young and still has her whole life ahead of her.....

[murdock]

i decided to go check out this story...she could call me anything she wanted even if she had a whip and she was punishing me ...she is refered to as a sex kitten...now i can see why...i am sure even black people will be taking a second look at some of those images....i dont beleive you could compare darren scotts prpblem to this honeys problem...i guarentee she is getting more hits than ever since this issue and it sure as hell wont stop the boys looking...in fact i am considering downloading a pic or 2 as my screen saver...yuuuummmmmyyyyy

[murdock]

the big question should be so what happened to the rude "gentleman" who made these sexual remarks and sounds...she should be sueing him for sexual harrasment...but unfortunelty here is sa...raping or sexually abusing women is a way of life...considering it happens like ever 17 seconds or something ridiculous...using the big K word is a far more serious offence as indicated by the reaction of people in this country...it is actually very sad...fhm are the ones who are gona be loosing out...the fellas are just gona be looking for her where ever she goes to from here....the magazines must be fighting over who will get her next.

she wrote: 'I tweeted rather irresponsibly about an incident I encountered last night, using a harsh and unkind word about the gentleman who had confronted me with sexual remarks and sounds.

[adrianh]

The problem is that she also tweeted a while ago saying that a petrol attendant was a 'african monkey'. People let the first comment slide but when they confronted her about the second comment she defended the comment by saying she was harrased. Nobody said that she shouldn't react to being harassed, people are saying that she shouldn't insult an entire race of people because one person harassed her. Another thing that upset lots of people is that she used the 'k' word which is not a term that should have been in her vocabulary considering that she grew up as a post '94 'rainbow child'. The big problem is that she is represents her sponsors and thus their values. Remember what happened to Tiger Woods, he didn't even insult anybody, he just screwed around. Sponsors are very sensitive because bad publicity could sink them.

I think that the issue is not so much about her personally but more about the fact that such a young person could hold such attitudes in general. We all agree that she is young and that she ffed up and apologized. She should be forgiven for her mistake, but, be that as it may there is a much bigger picture. The bigger picture is not that one should totally end the careers
of those that make mistakes, but to understand what goes on in the heads of young people and to educate them appropriately.

Think about this; I can only assume that she would never insult her sponsors or religion in public, yet she felt it ok to insult an entire race in public, why - stupidity yes, but the thinking is that the 'k' word should not have been part of her daily vocabulary. I think that i she said 'a black dude' rather than a 'k' it wouldn't have been an issue.

[Justloadit]

This morning on 702 - Talk Radio, John Robbie, mentioned that a black model tweeted that "all whites must die", I can not even find a news headline mentioning this. If this is not racist, then we have our definitions screwed up.

Just shows you, again that situation that stories are selective, and that the headlines are made for self interest, and are designed to bring emotions into the front, and to promote racism.
Talk about being biased towards a minority group.

[Petrichor]

This morning on 702 - Talk Radio, John Robbie, mentioned that a black model tweeted that "all whites must die", I can not even find a news headline mentioning this.

There was a smallish article about it, but as you will see, most of this article was still focussed on Jessica Leandra Dos Santos

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-afri...weet-1.1290326

[adrianh]

Look this girl up in google: Elizabeth Lambert

She played a soccer match one afternoon and got quite rough. She didn't kill anybody or anything, she was just downright nasty...but...the event was filmed and got onto the net...Her entire world got turned upside down and she will forever be known as "The female football hooligan". As if nobody has played really rough before or after. Now really, lets be honest, there are times when we all do things that we are not proud of and regret but should such things end your life for no other reason than becoming public knowledge and thus becoming a common scapegoat.

[wynn]

check this out
A warning for mankind: Beware the new Big Brother

http://www2.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2012-05-07-a-warning-for-mankind-beware-the-new-big-brother

[Citizen X]

There's the real danger of one racial outburst, it will a knock off effect. The unnecessary retailiation. Both parties are equally wrongThis is the reason why we should be socially responsible and not engage in racism. We still need ongoing reconciliation in our country. Part of this process is forgiveness when a person apologizes. Both ladies should be given another chance. It’s a lesson learnt. Both these ladies should realize that their individual actions can cause impressionable school and university students to react detrimentally towards each other, it can cause neighbors to react.

[Blurock]

It is sad that things like this still happen. It may be a habit of expressing yourself, such as "I will kill you", without really meaning it. The truth is how other people experience what you do or say, not what you actually meant.

The other thought that crossed my mind is that; if you want to pose naked or semi naked in girly magazines, you should expect men (ALL MEN) to react to it in some way, whether positive or negative. If you offer yourself as a toffee, expect to get chewed.

The guy in question (guy-not gentleman) should also be ashamed of his chauvinistic behaviour.

[Dave A]

check this out
A warning for mankind: Beware the new Big Brother

http://www2.dailymaverick.co.za/arti...ew-big-brother

Actually, that article deserves another thread. Certainly an interesting topic.

The other thought that crossed my mind is that; if you want to pose naked or semi naked in girly magazines, you should expect men (ALL MEN) to react to it in some way, whether positive or negative. If you offer yourself as a toffee, expect to get chewed.

I had something similar wander through my mind - it's ok to have suggestive images sent out to the world, but making suggestive noises are a no-no?

But on reflection, there is a difference between personal and in person. And of course if a women dresses to flaunt her assets it doesn't mean she's inviting all and sundry to bed her against her will.

[adrianh]

The Big Brother story - The biggest pronlem is that nobody forces anybody to publish all their info on Facebook or Twitter. It is like saying that nobody should repeat what somebody said when that person stood at the top of a building and shouted it out for all to hear.

[Dave A]

In the interests of not derailing this thread, I've made a new thread for the Big Brother topic.

[Citizen X]

I admire both these ladies for the way they turned a seemingly hopeless situation into one in which they are now respected and commended. This really does so much good for ongoing ubuntu and reconciliation. Their target audience the youth will now take heed to what their icons have done wrong.

[adrianh]

...or one can say that the principal told them to shake hands and say sorry in front of the entire school...its all in how you see it.

...perceptions...

...some say the glass is half full, some say the glass is half empty, and wise ones say that the glass is a figment of the imagination of a biased observer....