South African parents stand accused of murdering their baby.

**adrianh** · 05-Nov-13, 07:16 PM

So what is the point that you are trying to make?

**tec0** · 05-Nov-13, 11:03 PM

Consider how many people where saved with vaccination. Without it we would still be facing horrible illnesses and massive fatalities. I recommend researching a TV show called "Bull shit" and find the episode on vaccination.

Their research pointed out that not all is what it seems to be.

**Trickzta** · 06-Nov-13, 02:19 PM

Main Points;
I really feel that these parents are unfairly charged with causing the death of their child.
I personally seriously doubt the ‘science’ behind injecting our bodies with BS. I approached this with an open mind and was stunned by what I found. Deception, corruption and fudging of figures is the order of the day. I still keep my mind open and invite serious discussion on any aspects of this issue.

Research;

Watch this clip; at 2.45 Bill Gates explains that ‘new vaccinations’ will assist in lowering the world population.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUJMR3BUm2s

Here is a site that disputes the distorted BullSh1t fed to us by crooked fraudsters posing as scientists. The FDA has been shown to be less than honest and has a horrible track record. Who to trust if the FDA is not trustworthy? Need links to FDA corruption?

Let’s have a look at the history of polio.
http://www.rense.com/general92/polio.htm

Some of these sites have a bad WOT rating (I wonder why?) there are many such sites on the net, most have links to other sites. Below I’ve included links to such sites. These badly rated sites are a danger to children?

From an original monograph by Dr Walter Hadwen, here is an account of how smallpox vaccine was first made:
1. A 3 month old calf was tied down on its side.
2. 30 – 50 one inch incisions were made in its stomach
3. Smallpox pus rubbed into each incision
4. Calf is returned to its pen, restrained so as to be unable to lick the sores
5. Wait one week.
6. Smallpox pustules form
7. Calf strapped down again
8. Encrusted pus is scraped off each sore and the remaining blood, lymph, and pus is then drained out.
9. It is placed in a crucible and heated, adding glycerine as a binder
10. Mixed and strained to remove hair and dead flesh.
11. Poured into tubes as sold as pure calf lymph – or smallpox vaccine.
- See more at: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/small....S906A77t.dpuf

Extracts from an article;
Alton Ochsner was one of the most prominent doctors in New Orleans where the secret monkey virus lab exposed by this book was located.) To demonstrate his conviction that the vaccine was really ready, Dr. Ochsner inoculated his own grandchildren with it.

The mass inoculation proceeded on schedule. Within days, children fell sick from polio, some were crippled, some died. Estimates vary dramatically. (The truth will never be known--TV) Ochsner's grandson died. His granddaughter contracted polio but survived.
- See more at: http://www.savethemales.ca/hidden_hi..._vaccines.html

http://www.whale.to/a/bruno.html
Dr. Richard Bruno is Director of Fatigue Management Programs and The Post-Polio Institute at Englewood (NJ)
Hospital and Medical Center. His new book, THE POLIO PARADOX: UNCOVERING THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF POLIO TO UNDERSTAND TREAT "POST-POLIO SYNDROME" AND CHRONIC FATIGUE, is published by Warner Books. (AOL Keyword POLIO PARADOX.) E-mail questions to him at PolioParadox@aol.com

The following text is taken from a report concerning children in Namibia;
-“The same situation of poliomyelitis occurring in fully vaccinated children, usually straight after mass vaccination drives, has occurred in many other countries, both developed and developing. The difference was in the truthfulness in reporting.”-

There’s that word again “truthfulness” http://www.whale.to/vaccine/scheibne...ak_in_Namibia_

There are more articles on this subject when opening the link above. There are over 20 reference works supplied, one dating back to 1933.

About the author;
Before emigrating to Australia in 1968, she progressed to Senior Associate Professor (Docent) - She retired as Principal Research Scientist in 1987,

The findings with Cotwatch sparked her interest in the link between sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) and vaccination, and resulted in her intensive research of orthodox medical literature into the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccines which continues to this day.
Since 1996, she has provided over 100 reports and appeared as an expert witness for numerous court cases involving vaccine injuries and deaths misdiagnosed as physical injuries by parents and other carers, called "shaken baby syndrome".

*Shaken Baby Syndrome – misdiagnosed vaccine injury! Get it?

Dr Scheibner can be contacted by email at viera.scheibner@gmail.com.
Conclusions; (part of the conclusions in her article)
Not only has mass polio vaccination not eradicated paralytic poliomyelitis, it has caused a number of outbreaks of paralysis directly linked to the administered vaccines.
Bits and pieces from her report;
“These days, when a vaccinee develops poliomyelitis, it may not be called poliomyelitis; instead, it may be called viral or aseptic meningitis, ascending paralysis (Guillain-Barre syndrome), cerebral palsy (over 75 per cent of cases are not diagnosed at birth but after six months) or other such names. According to MMWR (1997; 32[29]:384-385), there are 30,000 to 50,000 cases of aseptic meningitis every year in the United States. Considering that the vast majority (99 per cent) of the reported cases in the pre-vaccine era were non-paralytic and would have corresponded to aseptic or aviral meningitis, then vaccination has actually increased the incidence of poliomyelitis. In the pre-vaccine era, such high numbers only occurred in some epidemics. Now, such numbers occur every year, year by year.”

“Inherent problems with inactivation of viruses (including those contaminating polio vaccines) were already known as early as 1961 and 1962.”

“The incidence of both whooping cough and polio quite obviously went up threefold when vaccination became virtually mandatory. I see it as clear evidence that the vaccinations caused the recipients to contract the diseases which the vaccines were supposed to prevent.” – (she’s referring to a graph she supplies, with which to show the link between vaccinations and vaccination caused disease) My words in brackets.

“They totally overlook the vaccines' obvious and documented ineffectiveness in preventing any diseases, and the never-ending trail of disasters and very serious immune, autoimmune and degenerative diseases created in the process by modern medicine which earns billions of dollars from the vaccines.”
(Billions of dollars? Could this be a clue?) My words in brackets.

More Research;
Vaccines Deadly During Pregnancy: Fetal Immune System Arises From Entirely Different Source
http://preventdisease.com/news/10/12...e_system.shtml
The H1N1 Vaccine Is A Much Greater Risk To Your Health Than The Flu Itself
Hogwash Alert: One Flu Shot To Protect All Humans From All Flu Strains For Ten Years?

Many articles here;
http://www.naturalnews.com/vaccines.html
Including these;
Internet monitoring system to stalk social media users who question safety of vaccines

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040571_Ga...#ixzz2jrOhQ0wZ
The vaccine cover-up: uncovered
http://www.naturalnews.com/040402_va...cal_myths.html

NaturalNews exposes secret vaccine industry ties and military involvement with Institute of Medicine, reveals fatal conflicts of interest at IoM

One of the leading medical journals in this country has forbidden us to quote directly in this factsheet from peer reviewed articles about vaccine safety, again apparently because of pressure from the Department of Health. This is so despite the fact that these articles are published scientific studies.
"A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth."
-- Albert Einstein, letter to a friend, 1901
"Who gets to decide what the greater good is and how many will be sacrificed to it?"
-- Sandy Gottstein
http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...xFactSheet.htm

History shows polio caused by pesticide exposure, then was eradicated by decline in DDT use

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/036290_po...#ixzz2jrWxxULJ

There are so many lies and smoke screens that have been around from the time that Farmer Jenner first concocted his cow-pox patties that persist until today. Governments and Medical Agencies including Federal Agencies consistently cover up the messy parts and demonise all who would dare to confound the issue with serious and well researched reports.
I personally am of the opinion that the money plays the major role in this business. Why else should a child need all of these vaccinations on the grounds of a danger to children who are vaccinated? The truth is likely just the opposite. Vaccinated children are a possible danger, as carriers, to those not vaccinated. Why would ‘new vaccinations’ contribute to de-populating the planet?

But at the core of this thread, is the injustice that the parents of ‘baby A’ face on a daily basis. What a nightmare to be held responsible for the death of your own child when all you did was blindly “follow the rules”. Think about it.

That’s all I ask, think about it. Think about those parents.

**Trickzta** · 06-Nov-13, 02:28 PM

Oops. the live link to the titles were lost in posting. Here are active links.

The H1N1 Vaccine Is A Much Greater Risk To Your Health Than The Flu Itself
http://preventdisease.com/news/09/08...flu_hype.shtml

Hogwash Alert: One Flu Shot To Protect All Humans From All Flu Strains For Ten Years?
http://preventdisease.com/news/11/02..._flu_jab.shtml

**Dave A** · 06-Nov-13, 04:34 PM

If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation. In countries that have raw sewage entering the rivers, lakes etc where people use these same waterways for drinking and cooking the disease will never die away. The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world, so, consequently, the pharma industry with a lot to lose talks about the reduction of polio via vaccine.

Seriously? Are you really buying that?

Let's break that down a bit to make this easier to grasp the absurdness of the point -

There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks.

Had the victims been vaccinated against polio?
Pretty safely assuming not, if you couldn't get to them with a needle and syringe to give a vaccination shot despite repeated efforts, what are your chances of getting them onto a sewerage system?

Probably more remote than getting them onto a fixed line telephone (which admittedly is an abstract thought to file away for now).

The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world

How much does it cost to put a household on waterborne sewage?
And provide potable safe drinking water (something that parts of Europe haven't even managed to achieve yet BTW)?
In places with virtually zero infrastructure?
How many people in that household?

Not sure what that might cost?
How about a fixed line telephone? That just has to be one heck of a lot easier and cheaper, surely.
And telephone comms have always been in pretty popular demand if the explosion of wireless telephony through Africa is anything to go by, now that it's commercially viable. What was the problem holding back a full blown roll-out of fixed line telecoms?

How many vaccinations against polio could you get for similar money?
There's a reason why this "result of serious research" doesn't give any numbers - it's because the numbers will show how ludicrous the point is!

Actually, forget trying to wrap your head around numbers. Here's a question that should be easy to answer without any maths -

Why are these anti-vaccination stories on obscure websites more credible in your eyes than mainstream thinking on the subject?

**tec0** · 06-Nov-13, 07:17 PM

Lets be clear about something. I am not qualified to speak against or on behalf of vaccinations. But I have been vaccinated a few times and will do so in the future. Imagine the cost in lives if you take away vaccinations? How many people will be dead today? How many families will be dead today?

**Blurock** · 06-Nov-13, 11:19 PM

If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries?

Outbreaks of polio appears to be related to poor higiene. Polio is endemic only in Pakistan, Nigeria and Afganistan. It has now also surfaced in Syria during the civil war and experts are concerned that it may spread rapidly.

In Pakistan, aid can not get to certain areas because the local Taliban has been targeting anti-polio workers ever since the US tried using an immunization team to track Osama Bin Laden.

Islamist extremists in Nigeria have warned locals that "white medicine" is a CIA plot to sterilize girls and wipe out the country's muslim poulation.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban has stymied inoculation efforts over the years. It backed off in May, citing research that showed vaccinations like oral anti-polio drops were the best way to protect children. A 2nd round of their government's vaccination campaign was launched and trained volunteers vaccinated 8.2 million children under the age of 5.

Source: Time magazine 4/11/2013

**Trickzta** · 07-Nov-13, 03:24 PM

Thank you for expressing your opinion Dave. I too am not qualified to debate this issue as an expert or professional. That said I really feel that this couple is being victimized. This I say with some conviction as my family suffered a similar experience. Luckily our 18 month old child came out of the coma and slowly recovered over a few years. Happily the child is now a healthy young adult.

Now I’m not sure what would have happened had the unthinkable happened. Would I also have ended up charged with shaking my baby?

After that experience, an eye-opener in hindsight to say the least, my last child was not subjected to the routine 4 in 1 and other various inoculations. This child is now almost an adult and is the healthiest of all my children. Coincidence? Maybe. Normal and/or natural immune system? More likely in my unqualified opinion.

I had no idea at the time we rushed our child to hospital. A pediatrician who was on his way out as we were on our way in took one look at our child and immediately took charge. The diagnosis he made and the treatment he started were both correct. This was confirmed by the results of the culture test a few days later.

Looking back I often wonder if it was fortune shining down on us or was it that this Doctor had seen this illness in babies many times before. The kindly old Doctor, for whatever reason, had saved my child’s life and due to the urgency in starting treatment before the lab results came back.

The results could have shown the disease/illness to be bacterial or viral, with several strains of each type being a possibility. The experienced pediatrician was spot on in his ‘at a glance’ diagnosis. Now I’m not complaining about the ‘drop of a hat’ diagnosis in the doorway of the entrance to the hospital, but I sometimes wonder if this condition isn’t a lot more prevalent than we’re led to believe.

We were informed that our child had a 30% chance of surviving this illness and a 70% chance of brain damage if he did survive. Personally I believe that Doctors fudge these % predictions in order to best prepare the parents for the worst. I have no problem with this method as the motive is an honorable one. 50/50 was the most likely outcome of the first prediction. As to the second prediction I have no idea.

Now earlier you asked about knowing anyone suffering from polio. My maternal Grandfather had polio as a child and had a gammy leg as a result of this. A youngster that lived up the road from me had a form of polio. This also targeted the legs. I appreciate that this does not equate having a close family member with a more serious form of this infliction.

For thirty years of my life I used to visit Children’s Homes and other Mental and Medical Institutions around the country. As a technician I called on many places covering a very broad spectrum of Factories, Hospitals, Nuclear Installations (Velindaba-Pelindaba), Hotels, Clinics, Government Departments, Universities, Abattoirs, Mental Institutions, Prisons, Diamond Cutters, FMCG Producers, various Mines and Refineries, Mine Worker Hostels and the Mint. I’ve skipped a few but you get the idea. I’ve a general view of the big picture as opposed to an in-depth view of a specific part of the picture.

While I’m not saying that this makes me ‘superior’ in any way (the opposite is more likely) I am saying that I tend to see life in much the same manner, which has its limitations when trying to make decisions in specific cases. I hope I’m getting my point across here. I don’t look at issues from a certain viewpoint, I tend to look from different angles.

Anyway, after looking from different angles or seeing both (or more) sides of the story a different conclusion (from a one sided view conclusion) is often if not always reached. After some time of looking at issues from the different view/stand points a few trends become apparent.

All through the ages the Mainstream scorned and ridiculed those who would dare challenge the ‘status quo’. These ‘insane’ people would often be imprisoned, tortured, threatened, exiled or even killed. Jesus was one such person.

The truth had nothing to do with the treatment or punishment of such ‘heretics’. To publicly state that the earth was round when Mainstream thinking stated that the earth was flat could easily end with a Public beheading or other unjust punishment. Even with ‘scientific’ data to prove your statement you were subjected to this punishment and your data was suppressed.

Today we all know that the earth orbits the sun, but how many died for saying this at a time when the Authorities taught the opposite, based on the Book of Genesis? (God created the earth before He created light - therefore the earth was the primary celestial body orbited by the sun, being the secondary)

Today the same trend is applicable to anyone questioning the ‘wisdom’ of the Mainstream Medical practices and beliefs. Granted beheading has died down but the punishment of ‘heretics’ persists.
For example, we find in the book “Vaccination; the Silent Killer” by Ida Honoroff and Eleanor McBean, the following:
“In 1796 Edward Jenner started his cowpox vaccination craze, which increased the smallpox epidemics to such an extent that the disease became endemic, and in 1837 to 1839 there was the sweeping epidemic which killed 22,081 people. In spite of this absolute proof of the deadly effects of vaccination, the vaccine promoters managed to get a compulsory vaccination law passed in England in 1853. The epidemics then increased to such an extent that by 1870 to 1872 there was the worst smallpox epidemic of all time, which killed 44,480 people. The English people fought the vaccination promoters until they were able to abolish compulsory vaccination in England in 1948. They have had no epidemics since then.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06...is-not-pretty/

This part concerns Mainstream Medical Fraud and cover-up.
We were falsely reassured. We were told by authoritative sources…that an investigation had been done and cleared Wakefield of most charges. But as shown by documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, there was no proper investigation, merely a 48-hour ‘scramble’ to protect reputations and discredit the story.
According to the BMJ article, within 48 hours of this meeting, an editor from The Lancet met with the study’s 3 senior authors and the journal published “a 5000-word avalanche of denials in statements unretracted to this day.”
Further statements reported that an investigation was undertaken by the Royal Free Hospital that “cleared Wakefield of wrongdoing.”
However, according to documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, the investigation was actually conducted internally by the coauthors themselves. Both the Royal Free Hospital and Medical School have now confirmed that no formal investigation was performed, no physicians were ever interviewed, and no documents generated.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/01...n-total-fraud/

I’ll need some time to reply about the polio or whatever they’re allowed to call it in Africa and India. You make a valid point and I’d like to follow up on it. Land lines or land mines?

In reply to your question about ‘obscure websites’ a quick search revealed that the site had 8,500,000 visitors last month.
http://www.viunk.com/domain/naturalnews.com

I’ll check out more site details when I have the time. I’m sure that some of the sites would qualify as obscure. I’ll also supply links that expose the lies and fraudulent activities of the FDA and other ‘reputable’ agencies and sites.

This site has many Doctors that are not afraid of telling it like it is. They are also targeted by people that visit such sites with the sole intention of giving them a poor WOT rating. Some sites go from green to red in all departments overnight.
http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/tag/h1n1/

Thanks again for giving me food for thought. I appreciate your input in this matter.

I’ll reply to other questions as soon as possible. Take care.

**Dave A** · 07-Nov-13, 04:11 PM

I had no idea at the time we rushed our child to hospital. A pediatrician who was on his way out as we were on our way in took one look at our child and immediately took charge. The diagnosis he made and the treatment he started were both correct. This was confirmed by the results of the culture test a few days later.

Looking back I often wonder if it was fortune shining down on us or was it that this Doctor had seen this illness in babies many times before. The kindly old Doctor, for whatever reason, had saved my child’s life and due to the urgency in starting treatment before the lab results came back.

The results could have shown the disease/illness to be bacterial or viral, with several strains of each type being a possibility. The experienced pediatrician was spot on in his ‘at a glance’ diagnosis. Now I’m not complaining about the ‘drop of a hat’ diagnosis in the doorway of the entrance to the hospital, but I sometimes wonder if this condition isn’t a lot more prevalent than we’re led to believe.

This is truly disturbing. But if I may ask, what exactly was the final diagnosis?
And how long ago was this?

**Peter Johns781** · 08-Nov-13, 11:45 AM

The thing about life is it is not fair. I have not read the links but i am imagining what those parents are going through. However, it has be proved beyond doubt that they were not negligent enough to cause the death of their child.

**Trickzta** · 08-Nov-13, 03:07 PM

As promised a expose of Mainstream Medical fraud and corruption. I’ve limited the number of pages I’m posting, personally I’m of the opinion that this post is way too long, yet I’ve only scratched the surface.
I’ve used Mainstream Media reports as well as the more obscure sources when Mainstream Media (MM) requested payment for access and/or when MM ignored the story. My own comments are *preceded by and end with* an asterisk. Some Headlines say it all, no comment needed.
Remember that all my posts are opinion, I am not qualified to comment on Medical matters, I am however able to question and hopefully resolve some nagging doubts about the integrity of some scientists, scientific report fraud allegations, Governmental Agencies, Pharmaceutical Manufacturers etc.

First off a clip where (in my opinion) shocking details are revealed.
*40 different viruses in these vaccines anyway……..just after 6 minutes.*
*Dr Albert Sabin speaks near the end of this 10 minute clip*
Merck vaccine scientist admits presence of SV40 and AIDS in vaccines - Dr. Maurice Hilleman
http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=13...2F94D2CD90EF7B
*Monkey Business Exposed!*
*Related article;* HIV vaccines cause 50 percent false positive rate in HIV tests
*If hot link doesn’t re-post this link can be found on the page that first link opens.*

*Another reason why obscure websites are prominent in my posts might be that the Mainstream Media in the USA is owned/controlled by a few wealthy individuals. (Need links?)*

It is sad that only the alternative media (which is quickly becoming the dominant media now) dares cover the truth about this story, but that's exactly why we need your help in getting this story more widely read by others.

This story can't be completely told, by the way, without mentioning the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, an elaborate scheme set up by the U.S. government to insulate pharmaceutical companies from lawsuits that should have been filed by all the parents of children damaged by vaccines. Think about this: Vaccines are so dangerous that the U.S. government had to set up an extra-constitutional court system just to make sure the American people can't seek justice against Big Pharma!

The vaccine industry is run by such a powerful cabal of medical criminals that even the U.S. Supreme Court says it has no jurisdiction whatsoever when it comes to the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. In other words, this kangaroo court is more powerful than the U.S. Supreme Court! And its sole purpose, of course, is to make sure vaccine companies can never be sued, even as their products cause widespread fatalities and neurological harm in children, including autism. (http://www.naturalnews.com/031484_Supreme_Co...)

*Many millions were paid out to victims – mostly settled out of court.. No links but they are available.*

Wall Street Journal report.
Top Pain Scientist Fabricated Data in Studies, Hospital Says;

Dr. Reuben had been a paid speaker on behalf of Pfizer's medicines, and it paid for some of his research.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...72510903888207

Using the guise of ‘established’ medical science, these widely accepted studies are disseminated through medical journals and accepted as the ultimate authority by many. In the case of professor Sheng Wang of Boston University School of Medicine Cancer Research Center, his cancer research was found to be misconducted, fraudulent, and contain altered results. What is unsettling is the fact that his research had been previously accepted and used as a cornerstone from which to base all subsequent cancer research.

Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/cancer-res...#ixzz2k2FIjjTd
*Scary – “cornerstone ….. ALL subsequent cancer research*

One such example involves Dr. Scott Reuben, a well-respected anesthesiologist who was the former chief of acute pain of the Baystate Medical Center in Springfield Massachusetts. It later came out that Dr. Reuben fabricated the data for 21 studies, all of which were doctored to deceive consumers into thinking drugs like Vioxx and Celebrex were safe.

Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/cancer-res...#ixzz2k2G90Gdu
*What can I say? Doctor doctors and fabricates data for 21 studies*

Mistakes in Scientific Studies Surge
Wall Street Journal report.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...11850666582080

*At this point the WSJ requested that I subscribe to their journal for a dollar a week or something like that. I was unable to read the article but the Headline says it all. Mistake is the PC (politically correct) word in my opinion.*

USATODAY Report.
Psychiatrist: Company hid Prozac, suicide link
Eli Lilly & Co. officials lied 15 years ago in denying there was any evidence the anti-depressant Prozac could cause suicidal behavior, a Harvard psychiatrist has charged.

"'Oh no, no, we never heard of such a thing,' they told me," Teicher said. But studies from the 1980s showed such dangers, he said, and German drug regulators wouldn't license the drug when Lilly first applied in 1985, citing "suicidal risk." The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved Prozac in 1987. But when problems started surfacing, the agency held a scientific advisory panel hearing in 1991 and found no evidence of a link to suicide.
Before that hearing, Lilly published studies showing Prozac was safe, Teicher said. "They culled patients from their worldwide trials, they cherry-picked the studies, leaving out the trials showing problems."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...zac-usat_x.htm

*Pay for Medical Reports or subscribe to this ‘Elite Site’ that is often the source of “Alternative Website” articles.*
http://www.elsevierbi.com/reports
Elsevier and Medtech Insight proudly serve the Top 40 medical device companies within the Fortune 100 community, and is globally recognized as "The Most Influential Publisher of the Last 100 Years" by the Special Libraries Association. In addition, we are consistently ranked #1 among the Top 10 Scientific, Technical, and Medical companies, as reported by Outsell.
Adverse Drug Reactions Cover-Up? 80,000 Drug Files Go ‘Unreported’ by Big Pharma
It’s not news to say that the medical industry isn’t much interested in our health. Now, wealth - that’s something different, as we’ve seen in the ties between the DSM-5 panel members and pharmaceutical companies and the disease machine that is the cancer research industry. Roche and Genentech, a Swiss-based pharmaceutical hotshot and its US affiliate, respectively, were just caught with their pants down and 80,000 unreported drug files during an inspection is, therefore, not outlandish. Could these 80,000 files be adverse drug reactions?
Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/adverse-dr...#ixzz2k2ZMpR3z
*Speculation? Yes, but is 80,000 missing files ummm…..a mistake?*
The Great Myth of the FDA as Protector of our Health
http://naturalsociety.com/great-myth...#ixzz2k2oNp85b

Global Big Pharma has been fined more than $11 billion in the last three years for ‘nothing less than criminal wrongdoing,’ but this doesn’t stop them.
http://naturalsociety.com/great-myth...#ixzz2k2nkOm34

*These statements are verifiable* *tip of the iceberg when considering out of court settlements.*
Drugs pushed by Big Pharma hardly need more marketing. (GlaxoSmithKline settled with the government for $3 billion in July over off-label claims, and Pfizer settled for $2.3 billion in 2009.) That a federal court made it easier for Big Pharma to make more money with science that goes against nature has numerous and far-reaching implications.

Meanwhile, raw milk provider James Stewart can’t cut a break. His bail was set at $1 million—after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was finally forced to admit using misrepresenting statistics to link raw milk to death. (As we all know, however, stigmas die hard.)
Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/us-court-l...#ixzz2k2qquGN6
*One million dollars bail for selling raw milk to willing buyers? CDC finally forced to admit using misrepresenting statistics (fraud in common terms)*

There's much more much worse still to come. Sorry!

**Trickzta** · 08-Nov-13, 03:29 PM

Dave it was about 18 years ago that my child was ill. I cannot with any certainty say that this illness was or was not vaccine related. I said previously that my child was 18 months old at the time, I was out a little, my child was closer to 2 years old. (please excuse this honest mistake). I had no intention of disclosing this information when I first posted on this topic.

Our minds were not thinking clearly when our child was so close to death, many diseases were mentioned as possibilities. After the lab test results were returned we were told that it was a type of bacterial meningitis and if memory serves me - memory fails me right now but I'll be back with the precise name we were told by the Doctors.

When I read about the couple that stand accused of murder, the story conjured the dark days that my family endured when my child was ill. I am trying to raise awareness about the link of this illness to vaccines. A course that sets me in a position that I'd rather not be in, truth be told.

I'll be back on Monday. Have a great weekend.

**Trickzta** · 08-Nov-13, 03:40 PM

Thanks Peter, it's an awful situation for them. Just listening to them talking on a Fairdinkum Radio broadcast was all it took to convince me that they are not killers. The link is in a previous post if you have the time to listen. It is not too long and I think just hearing a portion of the broadcast will be all you need to draw a conclusion.

Protocol was not followed by the Hospital Authorities (in my opinion) and you raise a fair point about proving they were not negligent. However the child did not present the trauma normally associated with Shaken Baby Syndrome, and shaking your baby violently enough to cause death goes beyond negligence.

Thanks again for thinking of those parents.

**mvubu** · 08-Nov-13, 04:30 PM

If you need your tree shaken - do a google image search for:
Diphtheria
Hib
Hepatitis B
Measles
Meningitis
Mumps
Neonatal Tetanus
Pertussis
Poliomyelitis
Rotavirus
Rubella and CRS
Tetanus
Tuberculosis
Yellow Fever

Some of these were considered eradicated until the nutters started this nonsense. I fully support the neglect charge of the parents in the original post.
Vaccines, like evolution, is only in a controversy in the heads of those who will not examine the science, have a predetermined position and refuse to listen to reason.
This is a massive public health issue and entertaining quacks is a REALLY bad idea.

Anyone googled those images yet?

If anyone wants to know how the US Federal Courts ACTUALLY said here is the place to look: http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/omnibus-autism-proceeding
Three special masters were appointed to evaluate three test cases from this group. The court ultimately denied compensation for these cases and then denied compensation for a further three cases, and the court was not impressed with the science or expert witnesses marshalled for the plaintiffs

South African parents stand accused of murdering their baby.

South African parents stand accused of murdering their baby.

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