Coc question Regarding Earth for other services.

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  • DieterT
    Bronze Member

    • Oct 2014
    • 126

    #31
    Whaaat!?!! R25k and here I was thinking that P&T technologies asking R10k was ridiculous, ai

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    • Jasond MIE
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2014
      • 15

      #32
      P@T was the cheapest I could find, was worth it there, they were pretty jacked up.

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      • DieterT
        Bronze Member

        • Oct 2014
        • 126

        #33
        Originally posted by Jasond MIE
        P@T was the cheapest I could find, was worth it there, they were pretty jacked up.
        Thnx for the heads up. I heard someone closer to me is cheaper, but looking at P&T they look professional.
        I am guessing you did the masters under option 1 - 3? not 4?

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        • Leecatt
          Silver Member

          • Jul 2008
          • 404

          #34
          The installation of this earthing Terminal has been a requirement for some time now in new installations.
          I have never seen one.
          I have just read an article that specifically states that it is a requirement for an earthing Terminal to be fitted into existing installations, Sparks Magazine - April 2015 - Page 18. "The earthing terminal for other services - a piece in the jigsaw.
          Herwith the link: http://crown.co.za/images/magazines/...April_2015.pdf

          My question is "What does this item look like and where does one put it in a domestic installation?

          I cant imagine an Earth Terminal bolted onto the DB Facia plate and having 5 copper wires dangling from it would compliment the decor of the lounge in a mid-floor townhouse unit.

          Who has installed one of these and how do you go about it.
          I believe it has to be bonded to the consumers earth terminal via a 6mm copper wire?
          To make a mistake is human, to learn from that mistake is knowledge and knowledge is strength.

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          • JacksonS
            New Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 6

            #35
            SANS 10142-1 2017 update

            In SANS-10142-1 (2017), Section 6.11.5 now reads " A readily accessible earthing terminal may be provided...

            So it looks like this has become optional then. Am I right?

            There is still lots about putting up labels to indicate where it is and to mark it.

            Thanks.

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            • Dave A
              Site Caretaker

              • May 2006
              • 22810

              #36
              Originally posted by JacksonS
              In SANS-10142-1 (2017), Section 6.11.5 now reads " A readily accessible earthing terminal may be provided...

              So it looks like this has become optional then. Am I right?
              Correct.
              Participation is voluntary.

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              • Derlyn
                Platinum Member

                • Mar 2019
                • 1748

                #37
                Originally posted by Dave A
                Correct.
                Not 100% correct.

                On some installations this earthing terminal for other services is optional because of the words " may be installed"


                However:


                See Regulation 6.13.2.6. Other services such as water,gas,etc. in conductive material, which enter the premises, SHALL be bonded to the readily accessible earthing
                terminal ( see 6.11.5 ) by means of a conductor of cross sectional area at least 2,5mm sq copper or equivalent.



                From the above regulation it is clear that when the water or gas supply to the installation is in metal piping then the earthing terminal for other services is not optional. It is a requirement.

                Cheers and peace out

                Derek

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                • Dave A
                  Site Caretaker

                  • May 2006
                  • 22810

                  #38
                  Great point, Derlyn.

                  Shades of the satellite dish discussion...
                  Participation is voluntary.

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                  • ians
                    Diamond Member

                    • Apr 2010
                    • 3943

                    #39
                    So why not mount the non conductive dish on a non conductive pole and save all the hassle and reduce the risk of "attracting" lighting... and all the hassle of the rules and regs with regards to earthing? This is what i am doing with the wireless bridges we are installing... mount them on non conductive poles and wow imagine that less risk of lightning... but we all knew that.
                    Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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