New SANS 10142-1:2021 (ed. 3.o1)

[Leecatt]

If anything the regs are more relaxed ... so you might get into trouble for telling a customer they cant use cabtyre to wire their entire house ... or get confused about whether or not you have to install a double pole isolator for a ceiling fan or just put everything on earth leakage ... really dangerous stuff.

"wire a house in cabtyre", really?

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[ians]

"wire a house in cabtyre", really?

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Yip ... read all the comments ... and the new regs ... it seems the SANS regs have evolved due to low cost housing and ready boards.

[ians]

My advice would be to pass the FTE ... secure the 2 pieces with a cable tie or 2 (strain relief) fold it back and use my favourite cheapest joint ... the pipe with the 2 glands (protection from the test finger) if you have space ...

Anyone recognise this ... looks just like something posted on this forum a while back ... at least now we have a standard to refer to when doing the coupling joint

https://www.mce.co.za/#!itemdetails/name=2,5mm-2%2D3-core-black-gel-joint&code=gel%2Dbk&type=2&id=f85374c0%2Dac8b%2D4033%2Db38a%2Dffc60bcc91de

or ferrules and silicon filled heat shrink ... FTE secured with cable ties.

or if the budget allows https://www.mce.co.za/#!itemdetails/...2Dde778df52724

just remember you cant run the power and camera cabling in the same trunking.

[skusku]

Anyone to share the latest SANS document perhaps?

[Derlyn]

On top of each page is printed in red ( must be important ) This standard is exclusively for ECA.

What does that mean ?


On the bottom of each page, also in red, it says .. Photocopying or reproducing this standard constitutes a violation of SABS Copyright Rules.

Does that mean that copying and pasting sections for discussion here on this forum is not permitted ?

[GCE]

On top of each page is printed in red ( must be important ) This standard is exclusively for ECA.

What does that mean ?

There was a deal done that ECA would use it's offices to sell copies of SANS at the same price that SANS would sell it to you .
If you buy that book at some or other strange outlet and a lower price then it is more than likely stolen - If you buy it at a higher price then rather go to ECA and purchase
Think it is purely a protection measure

On the bottom of each page, also in red, it says .. Photocopying or reproducing this standard constitutes a violation of SABS Copyright Rules.

Does that mean that copying and pasting sections for discussion here on this forum is not permitted ?

You can't photocopy the book and sell on the street corner or start distributing amongst your mates - The electronic copies have your name and licence number all over them as well as the no copying or network storage .
In a company with multiple users you cannot stick it on the server and let everyone access it - you would need to buy a number of licenses , likewise hard copy you would need to buy a couple

I would not think it would stop us from pasting odd clauses here and there to explain something but would be different if I suddenly copy and pasted the whole book in one post

[Isetech]

On top of each page is printed in red ( must be important ) This standard is exclusively for ECA.

What does that mean ?


On the bottom of each page, also in red, it says .. Photocopying or reproducing this standard constitutes a violation of SABS Copyright Rules.

Does that mean that copying and pasting sections for discussion here on this forum is not permitted ?

I printed my electronic version in A4 format, much better, you can highlight and put sticky notes etc.

[skatingsparks]

So its R1000 for a book which most people don't follow. Until some clamps down on those that don't follow it, I ain't buying another one just yet.

[Alfred M]

So its R1000 for a book which most people don't follow. Until some clamps down on those that don't follow it, I ain't buying another one just yet.

'The ECB is still the only organisation in the country fighting to ensure clarity, safety and inter-communication between all industry sectors. We do this with volunteers, little income and support. We appreciate all of those who contribute and donate to the ECB. As electrical products and technology penetration increases in the country we hope more and more people will stand behind us to try and ensure the South African public remain safe." (Top Quoted from an article)

It seems that the ECB is not coping with regulating the laws the reason for so many installation done by pirate contractors especially in the low cost housing schemes that is popping up like mushrooms

[Isetech]

'The ECB is still the only organisation in the country fighting to ensure clarity, safety and inter-communication between all industry sectors. We do this with volunteers, little income and support. We appreciate all of those who contribute and donate to the ECB. As electrical products and technology penetration increases in the country we hope more and more people will stand behind us to try and ensure the South African public remain safe." (Top Quoted from an article)

It seems that the ECB is not coping with regulating the laws the reason for so many installation done by pirate contractors especially in the low cost housing schemes that is popping up like mushrooms

This is why it would be interesting to see actual figures of what is happening in the electrical industry. Considering people can sell 100m of 1.5 mm twin+E for R350 m (not even real copper) online or go to stores and buy electrical items without SABS or any type of approval. We even have stores opening in the main shopping centres, selling anything. Considering waste has become a major issue in many countries, sometimes I wonder if the stuff being recycled, is not being sold (dumped) in the form of a plastic toys or other plastic junk.

It is about time electrical industry caught up with the 20th century. Creating rules and regs are one thing, not having the capacity to create awareness or support them seems to be lacking.

The technology to do all of the above is staring right at us, it seems finding the right people is the problem.

I keep hearing about how small business is the way forward, implementing large company methods are not going to work. Someone should slap some sense into the old methods and create a reaction that will redirect the industry down a new working structure.

[Leecatt]

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