NWO has SA in its sights. (part 1)

[iLLuDeano]

Well from what I understand is that one of the NWO agendas is global de-population.. so yeah I'd say it fits in with this thread. It's a great article, this thread has a good following so I rate it was a good idea to post it here

[iLLuDeano]

Another thing is that the NWO exists out of 5 or so industry heads. Pharma, Army, UN, Food and Produce, and Media. Might miss a few here. But the idea behind the NWO conspiracy is that a single person represents each leg to form a group of people basically in charge of global trade and Leadership(Goverment)

We know of Vaccines being dangerous, we know of engineered viruses to "take people out" etc etc. This article just goes to show that many theories around the Big Pharma and the "Satanic" NWO plot might be true.

[Dave A]

Great link - iLLuDeano

So by posting it here and not on a new thread I can assume that you see big bad pharma as evidence of a NWO. It seems that almost anything is evidence of the NWO. What a waste of a good post, it could have been discussed so much more constructively for what it is without being seen through NWO spectacles.

You'll probably have to start a new thread yourself to discuss the points raised in relation to IP and meds. It actually could be an interesting discussion.

Seems the main issue that relates to this thread is the formation of industry lobby groups... which is fair enough.

It's a reality. I've participated in some and even led a few of them myself.
(And no - I'm not a member of any NWO organisation).

I don't know what business is expected to do - just sit back and let the agenda be driven by external interest groups and their fate decided by politicians, with absolutely no input from the business side at all?

My opinion is it's the interest groups that started the game of fighting one's cases in the court of public opinion. Business has no choice but to respond - or end up slaves to folk who have very little vested interest in the industry, and don't really have the long term interests of the industry itself at heart.

[pmbguy]

@iLLuDeano – You do feel that its evidence supporting the reality of a NWO, so you did post in the right place. You can post wherever you like, it was merely a personal preference thing. My preference certainly does not mean you have to accommodate it.

I do not believe in a NWO, I would have preferred it on a different thread to avoid having it discussed in reference to the NWO. This will cloud insights, ultimately rendering conclusions (In my opinion) worthless.

Humans will try to benefit themselves despite the harm it causes others, this is evolutionary. Historically all and present governments and big corporate will do many things that act totally against what we conceive as normal or just, or legal – for their own benefit.


In my opinion anybody who is interested in and has knowledge of history would find the concept of a NWO irreconcilable with our history and the human condition. Major superpowers would not forgo any advantage to work together on a global scale to somehow subjugate the entire world. Competition and divergence of goals (among others) will never allow e.g. the US and China working together to create a NWO. The Great powers appose each other, they seek to benefit themselves. By themselves I mean individuals, states and corporate.

A lack of historical knowledge combined with being exposed to the Omnipresent Reality of the Malicious goings on of state and corporate leads one to seek some explanation to make sense of it all, thus the need for the conspiracy theory namely the NWO. A natural response, which ultimately misdirects attention away from reality, which in turn leads to pointless discussion with no chance of potentially affecting reality.

[Justloadit]

Any business that is part of a select group in any field will be seen as an NWO from those that do not belong to the group.
In fact I am of the opinion that every business that wants to make money, and is attempting to produce a unique product for the masses wants to be an NWO, so effectively NWO is alive and has been well in the past, is currently affective in the present and will be in the future.

Every business that starts out is looking for the silver bullet. Those that have found it will always be accused of trying to be the next NWO.
Simply put, every generation will have its own group of NWO's.

[iLLuDeano]

Made a thread for this subject. let's see where it goes

[pmbguy]

The problem I have with the NWO and evidence thereof is the fact that nothing is new in respect of intent (natural civil, humanity) The world is at war. Peace is merely war without bloodshed. Seeing current realities as evidence of a NWO order without recognising it for what it is, a continuum of the regular, will make fools out of many.

[Trickzta]

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/ here is an overview of the NWO, this post dots the i's and crosses the t's. Possibly not the only version or definition around, but it explains things adequately enough for use in this and similar threads.

I've acquired a new toy, a mini sized touch tablet and as soon as I can drive it I'll be back to reply to the posts I've not yet answered. This toy will keep me up all night I'm sure.

[Trickzta]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#Population_control

Oops the written part is missing.
Be back in a bit

[Trickzta]

Another psyop propaganda that won't go away. Global warming due to CO2 emissions.

Hold on, and apply common knowledge to this statement. CO2 is heavier than nitrogen and oxygen, it tends to build up from ground level. Right? Then how can it be an atmospheric action that reflects or collects or whatever they claim it does in the atmosphere?

This myth is not supported by facts, but is spread by propaganda, an elitist ploy to distract and fool the public and earn big money at the same time. Brilliant scam, nothing more.

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/globalwarming13sep06.shtml

[Trickzta]

Pretty faced but black hearted! Poster boy for GM products. Poster boy for multi vaccinations.
Supporter of Agenda 21, a de-population activist. Pretends to be on a holy mission. Pals with George Soros and Henry Kissinger, real scum.

Be-ill Gates, liar and more...

http://newsrescue.com/bill-gates-vaccines-and-population-control-and-the-death-of-9-nigerian-health-workers/#ixzz2l0nbEVG3

Bully boy carrying out an unprecedented assault on Third World countries. Incentives, he calls the millions, known as bribes in Africa.

Tax dodging donations to Charities makes him a big star.
But just whose pockets are filled with his blood money to cover up the many lives he has destroyed, he is a smug thug.

[Justloadit]

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/ here is an overview of the NWO, this post dots the i's and crosses the t's. Possibly not the only version or definition around, but it explains things adequately enough for use in this and similar threads.

I've acquired a new toy, a mini sized touch tablet and as soon as I can drive it I'll be back to reply to the posts I've not yet answered. This toy will keep me up all night I'm sure.

All hogwash, let me quote a paragraph of your link -

"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.

There are over 7 billion people on the planet
Some more hogwash

Most of the major wars, political upheavals, and economic depression/recessions of the past 100 years (and earlier) were carefully planned and instigated by the machinations of these elites. They include The Spanish-American War (1898), World War I and World War II; TheGreat Depression; the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917; the Rise of Nazi Germany; the Korean War; the Vietnam War; the 1989-91"fall" of Soviet Communism, the 1991 Gulf War; and the recent War in Kosovo. Even the French Revolution was an orchestrated into existence by the Barvaian Illuminati and the House of Rothchild.

Hitler did what he did because he had the opportunity to get into power because of the dire straights Germany found itself in in the early 30's. Hitler did not listen to anyone but himself.
The French revolution was a spontaneous eruption after the French people were fed up with the kings extravagant lifestyle.
So the Arab spring taking place will also be attributed to the NWO I suppose.

[Trickzta]

Thanks for your reply Justloadit. Imagine how dreary the world would be if we all had the same likes and dislikes. We are all individuals and we all have the right to think, believe and disbelieve as we see fit. I respect your point of view even though it differs from my own.

The paragraph about the world population is in fact one of the goals the author reveals, it has not happened yet. The depopulation plan is in progress, Bill Gates, Monsanto, Bush, the Clinton's and others have shown their support for this policy. Once the One World concept i

[Trickzta]

That's all folks, just lost a lot of work. Urgggh.

[Justloadit]

One thing I can say about history, it repeats itself ever so often.

When every there is a large part of the population that is subjugated, the population at some point will fight back, with disastrous outcome to all. History has shown this many times, all the way back to Egypt and Alexandria.

Something that has always been at the back of my mind, is what Ghandi said many years ago in India

one hundred thousand Englishmen simply cannot control three hundred fifty million Indians if the Indians refuse to co-operate.