To be a "Settler" or not

[adrianh]

Make a bumper sticker

"Je Suis Whitey"

Very sharp... Noddy badge of the week goes to you!

[adrianh]

I got into a conversation with an Italian this morning on Facebook. The conversation drifted and eventually got onto the problems the he faces in Italy. His thoughts are really interesting:

(I quote him exactly as he wrote so please don't get caught up in grammar and spelling and nonsensical fluff)

the EU idea isn't to make us all the same: outside europe union people seems to see us more european than what we see us.

Every european country have very deep cultural differences, and we are usually very proud of our specificity and uniqueness, and we try to celebrate our differences.

The main issue in europe isn't social or cultural, the main issue is that the european union is all about finance and the strict rules of the euro as money, and that can work only if all country in europe share also politic, fiscal system and so on.

Sadly this isn't the case, in europe we share the same finance and valute, but we have all different fiscality, different politics, different systems for too many things, and this of course can only make different european govs fight each other to gain advantages over others.

The inequity of this then cause hates, and well, when in europe there is hate, our history should warn us to what can happen... but sadly living here it seems that history is slowing repeating itself.

I think in the long term europe will have a bride future as a federation of states, something like an "united states of europe", but before to come to that we will have to pass inside a very bad time of crisis if not even war, and italy will be probably one of the first country to collapse.

This is one of the reasons why i and my family will move away from italy soon, not for me, i can live relatively well in italy right now, i have all what i need and no big issues, but i'm really scared for my kids and i don't want to leave them grow up here.

[JanChris]

HR, I am not going to fall into your negative trap. We have discussed this before and I think that you are reading into my mail incorrectly, but that's up to you. I know what I know and maybe this forum is not the correct place for me to search for a "conversation", where I am not being "attacked".
It was never my intention to annoy or discriminate anyone but facts are facts and maybe you should take more interest in the media. The quirky sarcastic comments I receive do not phase me one bit. It appears I have a much more mature and stronger personality and a more positive outlook on life than most.

[pmbguy]

Yeah our situation is not that bad. We actually have a bright future under the ANC and things will just keep on getting better. When our president sings about killing us and announces that SA's problems started when Jan van Riebeeck arrived we must understand that he is not being serious and that such comments would not inspire any bad will against us. Land reforms can't possibly lead to famine. As for electricity, who needs it? BEE and AA is very very good because it makes us more creative and entrepreneurial, so what if it is also destroying our middleclass. People who get tortured and murdered everyday had it coming.

Stop complaining

[Justloadit]

and as our minister of SME's says, "Min. Lindiwe Zulu to foreigners: "Share your ideas with local business owners", after all you are here because of our courtesy.

[BusFact]

I got into a conversation with an Italian this morning on Facebook. The conversation drifted and eventually got onto the problems the he faces in Italy. His thoughts are really interesting:

(I quote him exactly as he wrote so please don't get caught up in grammar and spelling and nonsensical fluff)

Wow, that was interesting. I wonder how wide spread that sense of worry is. Where would Italians move too that is better?

[Justloadit]

Somalia?
they speak Italian there, or maybe Libya?

could it be better than Europe?

[HR Solutions]

maybe you should take more interest in the media.

Ok thanks for that Jan ...

It appears I have a much more mature and stronger personality

Ummm ... ok .... didn't know we were comparing personality's etc ......but if you think so ......good for you

[JanChris]

Ok thanks for that Jan ...



Ummm ... ok .... didn't know we were comparing personality's etc ......but if you think so ......good for you

I think that you are so childish for a grown man or have you grown up?

[HR Solutions]

I think that you are so childish for a grown man or have you grown up?

[Dave A]

Seems that this thread is all about how to screw up the present and future by hanging on too dogmatically to the past.

[HR Solutions]

Seems that this thread is all about how to screw up the present and future by hanging on too dogmatically to the past.

Yep ... We need to move on ��

[wynn]

I just want to put a 2c observation into this post.

I am an English speaking Saffer, my father was an officer in the SANavy and as a family we were discriminated against because my mom who was British did not speak Afrikaans, being Catholic was a further black mark against our name, 'Rooi en Roomse Gevaar', even Afrikaans Officers who were not 'Broeders' or were Catholic were discriminated against, so all I can say is 'This is not pre 94, get over it, move on'.

[pmbguy]

Political correctness makes for the prettiest of fools

In Jan in CT the president stated that SA’s problems started when Jan van Riebeeck arrived in 1652. They also publically sing songs like “shoot the Boer” in 2015 whilst blaming us for all the problems.

[NB]These are things they say in public, now imagine for a moment what they are saying behind closed doors.

You guys say that we are holding onto the past, but our government and its supporters are holding onto the past much more and with much more malice and intent.

The ANC is racist to the core, just look at their rhetoric and laws aimed directly against us, yet when we speak out we are labelled as the bad guy – politically correct madness.

[HR Solutions]

Sure but just because one or two BAFOONS make these stupid comments does not mean that we all have to follow our stupid leader. We also have to acknowledge that he is a complete idiot and always puts his foot in his mouth all the time. We have to move on and try from our own personal perspectives to make things work.